CRAP !! My KSG NEVER BROKE !! IT'S A GOOD GUN !!

I'm with you Stormtrooper, my KSG is awesome. Not one problem in ~350 rounds. I've had several non gun friends shoot it and they didn't have any problem at all. Even the girls. And we all know how girls like to short stoke shotguns (and other things). Which is usually a jam waiting to happen. But not a problem with mine at all.
 
Brordo said:
I haven't fired it since putting it on so can't say...
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WTF? What the hell do you mean, you "can't say"???

Read the entire thread. It's loaded with scholarly opinions from guys who have never shot, or in many cases even seen, a KSG. They have no problem reviewing its good and bad qualities!

What kind of gun nut are you, anyways? Do what they do...they read a half-dozen or so posts on the internet...sometimes their own posts!...and then make a pronouncement. Easy peasy!
 
mine is fine with the afg2 attached to it. about 400 rounds fired so far and no problems with the gun at all.
 
KSG group size

My KSG is fine also - Lottsa Frogsnot (the grease) and it is almost as slick a pumper as my Valtro.

I shot 2" 100 yd. groups with 2 3/4" slugs, which is surprising as the nominal 12g bore is .729" and the KSG is a bit larger at .743" .

My Valtro does the same but it its barrel acts as a choke starting from the chamber. I am puzzled as to why the KSG groups so well with slugs. With buck shot it does not equal the Valtro in tight patterning.

As far as the rail segments breaking check out my previous post on how to correctly mount a fore grip in one of the other KSG threads.

I do have one complaint however - the damn thing is so light it KICKS like a cannon when your mags get low ! :kickInTheNuts:
 
Posted this on another thread about the KSG.

Oh and yes I've seen 870 shotguns that broke. A couple actually. Granted the police 870 shotguns get cycled a lot, fired a bit and cleaning at times is an issue.

Lineofsight received his KSG a few weeks ago or so. Of course I checked it out.

I actually like it. It's compact and points nicely. The trigger is very good as well. I like how it loads underneath much like the 870 which I'm very familiar with. Overall the quality felt pretty decent. I didn't take it apart but the initial feeling wasn't one of a cheap gun. I would buy one.

I do however think they should have done the bottom rail like that of the RFB where it's a metal add on or have it come with a metal bottom rail. That being said go for the angled grip if going to use a grip. Lots of guys in the states also reporting broken rails.

A couple of things about the KSG I noticed.

1) You can't do a single shot load on the fly. Or "tactical" reload when the tube magazine is empty. Ie slam one in the ejection port and feed it through without going to the mag tube first. Simply the KSG ejects out the bottom and not the side. The flip side to this is of course that the KSG is ambi or lefty friendly.

2) For the 870 a lot of us for work use a cheat. We do our mechanical and safety inspection. But after putting the fore end forward and squeezing the trigger, we then put the safety on and load 4 for duty. When a police shotgun is stored in the car it has an empty chamber and 4 in the tube mag. Now what this trick of not resetting the trigger does is allow you to jump out and rack the shotgun to load it without using the action bar to release the fore end. It's common to jump out of the car and try to rack the shotgun only to have it stick. The WTF then oh ya the action bar usually is the reaction. Well with the 870 you can do this trick and have the safety on. With the KSG you can not activate the safety if you do this. Which means you're not going to use this trick. If for any reason the fore end ever slipped and loaded a round the safety wouldn't be on. Not a good idea. Plus the safety wouldn't be on when you went to chamber a round using this trick and the KSG.

Something else to consider. A semi auto shotgun will get off a lot more rounds without the loss of accuracy by having to manually use the fore end to load another round. Semi auto is the way to go. Police only use the 870 because it's tried/true, cheap and Cops are like teenagers who break everything they come in contact with. Mostly it's cheap.

I haven't fired the KSG. Just a quick look at one. At almost half the price of the UTS-15 it's something I will eventually consider. The compactness, the trigger and the amount of ammo it holds are all very nice features. I do like it better than the 870.
 
2strklvr said:
I find it funny how the majority of those that are whining the longest and loudest about the quality of this gun have never even held one in thier own two hands. Armchair quarterbacks, the lot of 'em.
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so if there are widespread reports of a certain gun blowing up in peoples faces, i actually have to own one and have it blow up in my face to be able to voice the opinion that theyre junk?

90% of the people that purchase an expensive gun will look for ways to justify their purchase regardless of its glaring faults -- especially the eager ones that just couldnt wait and paid extra to get their hands on them.
 
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manbearpig said:
so if there are widespread reports of a certain gun blowing up in peoples faces, i actually have to own one and have it blow up in my face to be able to voice the opinion that theyre junk?

90% of the people that purchase an expensive gun will look for ways to justify their purchase regardless of its glaring faults -- especially the eager ones that just couldnt wait and paid extra to get their hands on them.
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90% of people who post negative comments dont have, or have seen a KSG.

KSK envy perhaps ? ;)
 
The title of this thread should be updated to reflect the FACT that his KSG did not break. This thread fans the flames for keltec haters and is crap.
 
manbearpig said:
not sure about you, but i dont need to actually stick my hand in a pile of s**t, and feel it squish between my fingers, to know it for what it is.

and thats pretty much what a gun that breaks like a cheap dimestore watergun is, sorry.
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This is f**king stupid.. You must be very angry you didnt get one and now trying to crap all over it.. That is sad.
 
manbearpig said:
not sure about you, but i dont need to actually stick my hand in a pile of s**t, and feel it squish between my fingers, to know it for what it is.

and thats pretty much what a gun that breaks like a cheap dimestore watergun is, sorry.
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I dont know.... that is a bit harsh. a piece of plastic broke on a new design.... not like the gun exploded, just one piece broke some rails. I am sure kel tec will take care of everyone/redesign the one breaking piece....

its not like smith and wesson or ruger never put out a POS firearm, yet people love and buy them all the time
 
Dmitri said:
This is f**king stupid.. You must be very angry you didnt get one and now trying to crap all over it..
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you got me!

luke s said:
I dont know.... that is a bit harsh. a piece of plastic broke on a new design.... not like the gun exploded, just one piece broke some rails. I am sure kel tec will take care of everyone/redesign the one breaking piece....

its not like smith and wesson or ruger never put out a POS firearm, yet people love and buy them all the time
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yeah it was harsh, sorry.
the rails breaking are just the first of the issues. the fact that so many people are breaking rails just minutes after they get the gun indicates that they have been rushed to market and havent been through a proper dev/quality control/testing cycle.

and how exactly is Kel-Tec going to address this issue long-term? do you think theyre going to send milled aluminum forends to tens of thousands of KSG owners? at best you can expect to have yours replaced under warranty with another sh**ty plastic forend.
 
manbearpig said:
yeah it was harsh, sorry.
the rails breaking are just the first of the issues. the fact that so many people are breaking rails just minutes after they get the gun indicates that they have been rushed to market and havent been through a proper dev/quality control/testing cycle.

and how exactly is Kel-Tec going to address this issue long-term? do you think theyre going to send milled aluminum forends to tens of thousands of KSG owners? at best you can expect to have yours replaced under warranty with another sh**ty plastic forend.
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I agree something was rushed/designed wrong/not thought out. I did have a plastic fore end on my 870 break, I am sure some wooden ones have broken somewhere too haha

I dont know how they will address it, no point sending another crap forend
 
the funny thing is that Kel-Tec's own promo imagery and SHOT show display gun had a vertical foregrip installed on the plastic rail. so they cant claim that this is an 'unintended use'.
i guess they just never actually fired the thing.
 
ponts said:
The title of this thread should be updated to reflect the FACT that his KSG did not break. This thread fans the flames for keltec haters and is crap.
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I'm pretty sure the OP can edit his thread title. Or at least we can to our EE posts.

If not, maybe a mod wants to do so. I'm kinda tired of the flaming going on in here, especially since it didn't actually break.
 
"f**k f**kity f**k f**k f**k"...to quote Eric Cartman. Maybe now this thread will be locked...I'll take one for the team. :)

To summarize...
  • the OP's KSG did not break
  • folks have posted videos that they've found of other KSG's that have had problems
  • people have posted second hand accounts of KSG problems
  • No one has posted here that their KSG has had a problem

It's just been a #####fest for those who don't own a KSG to say "nyah nyah you bought a piece of s**t" while those of us who own one to say WTF?

Yeah, maybe an aluminum bottom rail would have been better...but if you're not using a vertical grip IT DOESN'T MATTER.
 
Wow!,haven't checked in for a while! I am on a waitinglist for one of theese puppies! I'll skip the VFG! Italked to the sales guy, he's trying to sell me a $3500 german jobby! I laughed! Pricepoint is on of ksg's attraction! I own a su-16 it feels cheap because of the polimer(plastic)usage makes it so light...it rocks! Affordable, light and accurate!
People poo poo hatsans cause they bought bennelli, whatever! I have two kids to feed, and several shottys,rifles and HG's, so I enjoy AFFORDABLE firearms:) ksg,norc,tok,hatsan, and yeah I own,browning,s&W,Dw,savage too!
Run what yah brung I say! We are all here cause we enjoy firearms:) not to be #####ed at!
 
I should add that the KSG is more along the lines of the RFB for quality. In fact it feels a lot like the RFB when you originally pick it up. This is a good thing. The RFB is a departure from Kel-Tec's usual quality. The KSG appears to be decently made. It doesn't feel like a cheap firearm.

Also there are videos out there of the kSG being thrown around, torture tested and used with a vertical grip etc. If going to a vertical grip (personally I think I'd just leave it as is) then there are ones that clip on properly to the rail. I'd look into this first if going that route.
 
manbearpig said:
so if there are widespread reports of a certain gun blowing up in peoples faces, i actually have to own one and have it blow up in my face to be able to voice the opinion that theyre junk?

90% of the people that purchase an expensive gun will look for ways to justify their purchase regardless of its glaring faults -- especially the eager ones that just couldnt wait and paid extra to get their hands on them.
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Widespread reports of a certain gun blowing up in people's.face eh... I'm from Missouri...So show me these multiple reports of KSG's blowing up. Waiting.... Waiting.... Tumbleweed rolls by... Still waiting...and nothing. I think your getting your facts mixed up guy... We can clearly see you have a hate on for Kel-Tec, and enjoy stirring the pot with regurgitated information found/made up on the Web... That's cool...that's your thing...your going to eventually get a rise outta someone who'll take the bait your casting out, and go into "snap mode"...I look forward to reading the crapfest that follows....I actually find third party,double endorsed out of state friend of a friend (no names) posts to be quite humorous...desperate, but nonetheless humorous...
 
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