Critical differences between ipsc and 3 gun rules?
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I don't but it's my opinion that there has to be a clear and overwhelming reason to impose a dress code on a group of responsible, law-abiding adults. We're not in a Catholic school any more. Yes, there are plenty of other venues that don't treat their participants the way other entities treat hormonal teenagers and those sports haven't suffered. Social conservativism gone overboard doesn't have a place in sports. That doesn't mean that there is no place for something along the lines of 5.3.1 if the wording got changed to "inappropriate to the region".. Some examples:
-A shirt with a Nazi flag would not fly in Israel (or here for that matter)
-A shirt depicting graphic violence, #### or swearwords is not such a hot idea for any event where children are likely to be in attendance
-A shirt depicting a spit-roasted piglet might not be such a hot idea in Morocco
Wearing camo causes as much concern for me as a man wearing pink. Now, there are some regions where civilians are not allowed to wear camo, but our body of laws contains provisions for obeying all applicable local laws.
P.S. For my IPSC matches, I've gone for the 2bit Russian gangster look on the outside just to fit in with the "cool kids", but I may or may not have worn camo boxers. With that being said, any MD trying to unzip my fly should know I don't take kindly to ###ual harassment
No one is imposing it on you. You are absolutely free not to shoot IPSC if you don't like it. For once, IPSC, is not a military game.
For the same matter, most of the martial arts sports require one or another sort of traditional uniform. I don't see anything wrong with IPSC organization trying to cultivate some sort of uniform too.
PS: careful with that fly of yours. If you forget to zip your pants after visiting toilet at one of IPSC matches, RO may send you home for violating 5.3.1 and/or for bringing the sport to disrepute 10.6.1...
For the same matter, most of the martial arts sports require one or another sort of traditional uniform. I don't see anything wrong with IPSC organization trying to cultivate some sort of uniform too.
PS: careful with that fly of yours. If you forget to zip your pants after visiting toilet at one of IPSC matches, RO may send you home for violating 5.3.1 and/or for bringing the sport to disrepute 10.6.1...
That's the very definition of imposing. It's one rule that brings nothing to the game and imposes unnecessary restrictions on its members. I also won't take the "if you don't like this or that, move to another country" kinda argument. I'm trying to change a rule I don't agree with from within by fostering healthy discussion. That's the way things are done based on democratic principles.
Agreed on that point.. Scoring based on time doesn't play into realistic military training and a race gun of any kind would not be a very practical piece to take to the front, just to name a couple of differences.
But mommy, all the other kids wanna jump off the bridge, why can't I?
PS: careful with that fly of yours. If you forget to zip your pants after visiting toilet at one of IPSC matches, RO may send you home for violating 5.3.1 and/or for bringing the sport to disrepute 10.6.1...
And the Mrs. would kick my behind for showing off her property
Oh, I've certainly read them and shake my head thinking about them every time I put on my belt, but the game is fun and there are lots of good people in it. I know euxx in person; he's a good guy and puts a lot of effort into promoting the sport; I have lots of respect and gratitude going his way. However, maybe I got too much of a libertarian streak in me, but I'll never see eye to eye with Mr. Pinto on this topic, no matter who agrees with him.
You know what. I've been at a few non-IPSC matches with people dressed like ninjas or some sort of commandos from their tactical glasses down to the underwear... until they actually started shooting, because it was beyond pathetic. So, I really like that IPSC separates itself from that crowd. Even just by the dress code.
On the other hand, I also know more than a few people who wear regular shirt and pants and using their beat up gear they can outshoot most people with super-duper-fancy gear and cammo all over. I have great respect to those guys for their shooting skills and not for what they are wearing at the range.
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IPSC only allows clothes that promote the sport? I'm not a camo or tactical ninja kind of person but I've always figured that if I had to judge fellow shooters I'd do so by their character rather than their attire. My sport shooting world is rather small however so I guess that's why my views may seem rather provincial.
You've got it backwards. Basically, drop your ninja pants if you want to promote IPSC as a sport. Pun intended.
I am not judging people by their attire, but at the same time intentions of some people to wear specific attire do deliver certain message... which in most case is confirmed when they start shooting.
Your comments triggered my sarcastic response reflexes and my OCD is compelling me to say this!!
Free country, do as you wish!!
Do they just roll around freely in her purse or does she at least put them in a soft pouch??
Seriously though, when is that last time Rambo showed up to an IPSC match and was turned away?
He'd get funny looks and most likely be mocked, but that wouldn't be because of the rules.
IF this actually ever becomes an issue, we can waste more bandwidth discussing it.
Free country, do as you wish!!
And the Mrs. would kick my behind for showing off her property
Do they just roll around freely in her purse or does she at least put them in a soft pouch??
Seriously though, when is that last time Rambo showed up to an IPSC match and was turned away?
He'd get funny looks and most likely be mocked, but that wouldn't be because of the rules.
IF this actually ever becomes an issue, we can waste more bandwidth discussing it.
LOL.
That's the thing though, nothing is currently banned!
Discouraged is not prohibited.
Besides, my choices in shorts are awesome.
Actually, D-Shoot should be banned. Until they start making men's sizes, those shorts are more offensive than someone showing up dressed like a member of seal team 6.
That's the thing though, nothing is currently banned!
Discouraged is not prohibited.
Besides, my choices in shorts are awesome.
Actually, D-Shoot should be banned. Until they start making men's sizes, those shorts are more offensive than someone showing up dressed like a member of seal team 6.
Show me any professional sport with a uniform....and I will show you an individual in that sport going outside the norm.
It is simple human nature. Put a label on anything, someone will push the boundaries.
IPSC rules can't stop individualism...no matter how much Vince thinks he rules the world.
It is simple human nature. Put a label on anything, someone will push the boundaries.
IPSC rules can't stop individualism...no matter how much Vince thinks he rules the world.
Nothing against your shorts, really. I just don't get people's whining about IPSC not providing a warm welcoming for the tactical ninja masquerade costumes...
As for dshoot pants. You need to complain to Mike B. I am pretty sure he is bigger size than you and may know some people who could find some of your size.
As for dshoot pants. You need to complain to Mike B. I am pretty sure he is bigger size than you and may know some people who could find some of your size.
Yeah....I hate those guys with the D-Shoot pants masquerading for people that can actually shoot....hate those guys!
Edit...I might have made a faux pax here....they could be girls in th D-Shoot pants....if so, my sincere apologies....did not mean to make offence, girls in D-Shoot ROCK!!!!
Edit...I might have made a faux pax here....they could be girls in th D-Shoot pants....if so, my sincere apologies....did not mean to make offence, girls in D-Shoot ROCK!!!!
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