Critique and comment on our Ruger 10/22 stock (goes into prototypeing this week!)

Good luck with your project. Can you make the top rail a little longer, so it reaches to the back of the stock and the rail and stock can be screwed together to make the rail more stable. Also if the whole thing could be assambled using only one allen key, that would be great too, and the less screws the better, maybe instead of five screws on one side, do two or three.

What other things can you make?
 
That looks great, and I was just about to make some enquiries about finding a damaged or used airsoft M-4 type to try and use for my own 10/22 tacticool.

I have to agree that the AR-15 style butt stock is something I prefer. With so many AR-15 accessories out there I would like the ability to make use of all these options.

Now I just need to buy some high capacity AR-15 mag bodies and epoxy my butler creek 25rnd into it to have a truly tacticool 10/22.
 
why not make a collapsable and an ar15 stock? I like the shorter forearm myself if you are going for a stock look like this. I really like my rhineland but wished it had a shorter forarm.
 
P12 said:
Good luck with your project. Can you make the top rail a little longer, so it reaches to the back of the stock and the rail and stock can be screwed together to make the rail more stable. Also if the whole thing could be assambled using only one allen key, that would be great too, and the less screws the better, maybe instead of five screws on one side, do two or three.

What other things can you make?
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Good suggestions, thanks!

Edit: im just getting into these rifle stocks, but I have a CNC machine shop and we can build almost anything under the sun. If you have any ideas for machined parts, fire away.

surfclod said:
That looks great, and I was just about to make some enquiries about finding a damaged or used airsoft M-4 type to try and use for my own 10/22 tacticool.

I have to agree that the AR-15 style butt stock is something I prefer. With so many AR-15 accessories out there I would like the ability to make use of all these options.

Now I just need to buy some high capacity AR-15 mag bodies and epoxy my butler creek 25rnd into it to have a truly tacticool 10/22.
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Thank you for the compliments, good luck with your project.

ozzy said:
why not make a collapsable and an ar15 stock? I like the shorter forearm myself if you are going for a stock look like this. I really like my rhineland but wished it had a shorter forarm.
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This is probably the route I'd go. Offer both.

Edit: Factory 18.5" barrel, added to OP

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It all looks pretty good to me, and I will stay tuned for the final product with possible purchase. I am really impressed as a machinist and a Canadian that you are doing this. With the border getting tighter its good to see some work getting done on our side of the fence.
P.S.- How about a replaceable shim under the barrel on the fore stock radius to accommodate reg. barrels and bull barrels etc. so a person doesn't have to decide between the two for there present application.
 
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Make it so you can use readily available AR 15 parts like magpul etc. Your own custom sliding stock should only be an option.... Make the part more interchangeable, as well as better for training, allowing same cheek weld etc.
 
I like the concept. My recommendation would be to make it as modular and versatile as possible to cater to the widest variety of integration options.

- removable rails (including the top rail, to allow use of iron sights such as the standard 10/22 sights, or the Tech-Sights)
http://www.tech-sights.com/
- removable stock (allowing the use of a sliding stock as shown, or AR/M16/M4 stocks). I prefer your sliding stock (more compact).
- AR/M16/M4 pistol grips (removable)
- usable with both the standard barrel, and bull barrels

Ergonomics:
- adjustable stock height, to allow use with iron sights or scopes (better to be too low than too high; low stocks can have a separate cheekpiece added)
- adjustable stock length (12 to 14”, in 0.5” increments)
- narrower stock butt
- flat bottom forend (to rest it on flat surfaces)
- balanced (not too front-heavy), when using the standard barrel, and your sliding stock

Accuracy:
- free-floating barrel (properly supported near the receiver)
- drop-in, bedded installation

Looks: I don’t like the blocky forend of the Evolution-type stock. The Rhineland arms forend looks much better, as does the Badger Ordnance Stabiliser forend: :rockOn::rockOn:
http://www.badgerordnance.com/productgroup.php?id=handguards

... or a G-36 forend:
http://www.hecklerkoch-usa.com/le_g36_general.html

Please keep us posted on your developments. It's great to see such products being produced by a Canadian manufacturer.

I’m really looking forward to your M14 stock, especially if it’s also in the $300 price range. :):dancingbanana::dancingbanana::dancingbanana:
 
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I have some concerns about the weight distribution with that stock. The front looks as if it will be heavy. Have you checked out the weight distribution? Plus the front looks clunky. Take a look at the other designs that you were working from and notice they have a much more refined front.

Good luck with your project.
 
Grodz said:
I like the concept.... tons of good info
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great write up, thanks! good info and suggestions. As is all the rails are removeable, including the entire upper rail.

Epoxy7 said:
I have some concerns about the weight distribution with that stock. The front looks as if it will be heavy. Have you checked out the weight distribution? Plus the front looks clunky. Take a look at the other designs that you were working from and notice they have a much more refined front.

Good luck with your project.
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I agree, it is quite blocky. Its a bit of a trade off though, blocky = easier to machine = cheaper. I'll be reviewing the design and incorporating a lot of the ideas put forth so far, refinement of the foregrip area will be adressed as well.

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I have the evo stock and its not heavy, its only aluminum.
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It should be quite light with most of the mass located around the action. There is a lot of material removed out of the foregrip area and the walls are quite thin.
 
Can you make barrels too for the 10/22, especially the short ones 11" - 12"? Those would sell like crazy. You could sell the stock and barrel as a package for less than the two saperatly.

What about 870 parts: forend, stock adapter like the mesa ones, sling mount.

30mm rings for Aim Point sights.
 
P12 said:
Can you make barrels too for the 10/22, especially the short ones 11" - 12"? Those would sell like crazy. You could sell the stock and barrel as a package for less than the two saperatly.

What about 870 parts: forend, stock adapter like the mesa ones, sling mount.

30mm rings for Aim Point sights.
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30mm rings would be no problem.

Great call on the 870 parts. I'm going to get working on a stock/rail setup similar to this:

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Grodz said:
+1 regarding short barrels (approx 12") for the 10/22 :)

If you can machine barrels, it would be great to have .22LR sub-calibre inserts for 12-gauge break-action shotguns. We have an ongoing thread on this topic:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328562
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As for the barrels and inserts, I'll be thinking about it in the future. Big investment in tooling and testing...
 
BSC MK2 10/22

Changes
-Refined forend.
-top rail covers entire top.
-added AR15 buttstock stock option.

BSC telescopic buttstock
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AR style stock (please excuse the horrible stock model, haha)
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Factory barrel, 18.5"
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Grodz said:
For the M14S/M305, a JAE-100 type stock would be excellent:
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ah yes, I'm familiar with that stock. Something like that is a little too involved to make on a reasonable budget, at least in my shop. Something i design for the m14/305 is going to be a lot simpler but also a lot cheaper.
 
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That's starting to look like something I might want but I still think the forend should be round like on the freefloated AR-15's. You can still get the rails on there and they feel better in the hand IMHO
Kim
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elimsprint said:
That's starting to look like something I might want but I still think the forend should be round like on the freefloated AR-15's. You can still get the rails on there and they feel better in the hand IMHO
Kim
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Thanks for the input! unfortunately, keeping the forend squared is contributing a lot to making the design cost effective. It is something I will keep in mind though.
 
The forward edge under the barrel can catch. Bevel it back towards rear.

Also add a way to move or add rails along the barrel. Maybe like a RIS rail system.
 
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