Crossbow for deer.

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I didn't get my controled hunt tags this year for Ontario SW. Now I am thinking about bow hunting instead. But I don't kow much about bow's so can you guys give me a point in the right direction, budget around 600 to 700.
 
How does it work using a crossbow for bow hunting? Never done either (crossbow nor compound) but was under the impression that a crossbow was used under the same season and tags as a rifle. Or is it used under a different tag but only during rifle season?
 
How does it work using a crossbow for bow hunting? Never done either (crossbow nor compound) but was under the impression that a crossbow was used under the same season and tags as a rifle. Or is it used under a different tag but only during rifle season?


In Ontario a crossbow is considered a "bow" and can be used in all of the regular bow seasons as long as it meets the draw length/weight/bolt/broad-head/etc. conditions outlined in the regs.

x4 on the Excalibur. They are the best IMHO.
 
HEY FREDDY IN ONT you can hunt with a xbow from the first of oct to dec 31 .if you go and buy a deer lic at the hardware store this will allow you to hunt a buck deer anywere in ont that has an open season .you may be able to go to yopur mnr office and buy a tag for does if there are any left for you area .it is a lot of fun and a long season .as far as xbows xcal is the only way to go DUTCH
 
I use a Vixen.....their lowest power crossbow. I have hunted with it for the past 6 seasons, and taken at least 15 deer with it, kind of lost track, also we are blessed with additional tags in my particular WMU. Anyways, I have only ever had one bolt that was not a complete pass through, took a shot directly down, ended up severing the spine of the deer, and puncturing the heart, the bolt was buried up to the fletching. I certainly wouldn't recommend the Vixen for Moose or Bear, but on Deer sized game, it is more than enough. IMHO

I would like to go to the next size up, to the Phoenix.......just because, no real need too, but I am a GunNutz after all:D


Oh yeah.....I don't take shots that are more than 25 yards with it. 80% of the deer I harvest with it, are 15 yards, give or take a yard or two;)
 
Any particular model of Excalibur?? I see there Phoenix with the 175lbs. is aroun 600 to 700, is it enough of a bow for what I want? It is in my price range!

The Phoenix is an excellent choice. It will hammer an arrow clean through a 5x5 whitetail buck and the arrow will travel a long (long) ways once it exits the animal. Ask me how I know. :)

I'm pretty sure that everything Excalibur makes in the way of a "hunting crossbow" will git er done with reasonable authority; so long as you place your arrow carefully (which is a mandatory requirement for ANY arrow-kill).
 
Sounds good boys! I just checked Triggers and Bows which is just down the road from me and they have a Phoenix Lite Stuff Package for $663 which has the scope and 4 arrows. Looks like that is calling my name!
 
Get the Phoenix. I'm glad I did.

If you can find one for around the MSRP (don't know how it goes with them, it's been a few years since I was looking), you should get it with the accessory kit right off the bat. It will be pretty nearly in your price range, at least before tax.

It may seem a little silly at first putting a scope on something you won't shoot past 30 m. But it is a good enough scope it comes with the be a real help in low light. Also very importantly it makes aiming easier. The buck fever that can come with bowhunting can be out of this world. Consider it is quite possible that the deer could be nearly in range for as much 10 minutes or more before you get a shot!!!! Your brain can go to mush and it is good to just be able to put the crosshairs on the deer and squeeze.

RG

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Sounds good boys! I just checked Triggers and Bows which is just down the road from me and they have a Phoenix Lite Stuff Package for $663 which has the scope and 4 arrows. Looks like that is calling my name!

I do not want to sound like I am talking down to anyone, I just think that new archery hunters should know a few things, and through experience I have found that most of those without good mentors do not.

Above all else - your broadheads must be RAZOR SHARP! If you have shot them even one time into a foam target or hay bale, they are no longer sharp enough. If you want to practice with your broadheads on every arrow, use the same one for each arrow, or use practice blades, or buy replacement blades for your heads when you buy them, then you can replace them just before heading out hunting. The difference between sharp and razor sharp can be a couple hundred yards of trailing, or worse yet, a lost animal.

As others have already said, you need to limit your shot distance. Just because your scoped x-bow can split arrows out to 100 yards, does not mean it is appropriate or ethical to do so. FYI, a WT at 35 yards can drop 2 feet and move 1/2 a body length in the time it takes for even the fastest arrow or bolt to get there.

Shots on bedded, or otherwise completely preoccupied deer (i.e. tending a scrape, mounting a doe, etc.) MIGHT be stretched out to 50 yards if all the stars line up, however, any other situation needs to be shortened up considerably. A feeding, relaxed deer, maybe 25-30 yards. An alert, set to run deer, 15 yards or closer, 20 yards if you compensate for the drop of the deer on release, but no farther.

Some of us have learned these rules from hard lessons, and I advise all new archers to take heed of the real world experience of others, for yourself and for the animals you hunt.

I hope this helps.

Ian
 
Those are all very good tips, thanks. Just by where I will be hunting 20 to 35 yards will be the range, shotgun or bow, its just thick. I'll be sure to buy a couple extra heads so I always have razor sharp ones on hand.
 
PudelPointer:

All good points!

I might add, that the Wasp Broadheads that are shipped/sold with the Excalibur's, are not what I would consider the best, as a matter of fact I think they are crap. I have been using broadheads from ABC, Sonic Heads, ever since they had a free give away a number of years ago. They are quite a bit smaller heads than the Wasps, and I have found they go through the deer cleaner, ie. cut a nice smooth swath, just like a scalpel. A much better design IMHO.

I did try out a Mechanical head 4 years ago, and was not impressed, to say the least.
 
Another vote goes to the xcal pheonix. Easily one of the best on the market.

I would personally suggest going to some place like archers nook in london (not affiliated) because they have an indoor bow range and you can try before you buy. Also the package is 20 bucks cheaper there. And they are stictly archery so those are the guys you want to talk to.

All you need is:
Pheonix Lite Stuff Package
X-act Mechanical Broadheads (excalibur brand)

Make sure you ask if there is string wax included in the package. And watch most of these videos first. Its a real good starter.
http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/demo/listings.php?category_id=47
http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/demo/listings.php?category_id=80
 
No question, Excalibur ALL THE WAY!!! My wife & I both have Excalibur crossbows, mine is a ExoMax, her's is a Vixen. I really really respect the story behind their success!!!

Cheers
Jay
 
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