A 10rd mag for the crypto would be a no go. There is no pistol crypto to justify a 10rd pistol mag
Crusader Arms Crypto
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Lets say that I make this intended for a LAR-15 pistol then and don't mention crypto anywhere or being compatible etc. It'll just be a happy coincidence.
The outside divet is to allow the detent in the dust cover to push down, you could always use a dremel to add a small divet on the inner ledge so that the detent has a spot to hold into vs just putting pressure onto a flat surface
Not legal. Read the law.
Mine seem to work fine. Where are you? I would be happy to let you use my mags or gun.
Steel lined body w/ polymer lining to make the dimensions same as Stanag/ar, pinned or riveted at 10rds. The end user isn't too dumb to remove the polymer if it gets damaged or cracked. There's always a way, always a loophole, just look at all the loopholes that got us Canadians here in the first place thanks to the liberals, ndp, c21, attempted confisactions, OICs, and the wacko with a AR in Nova Scotia that ruined it for everyone including major businesses and shutdowns/layoffs.
Overall once it leaves my hand its pinned/riveted to 10rds and it only fits stanag/ar size magwells which follows all laws in accordance currently in place unless C21 changes more, so any modification or alteration by anyone afterwards im not resposible for, its no different if someone bought a factory mag and modified that or drilled the rivet or pin out to do something else it was not intended for.
Its very complicated and doesn't get any more simpler with the way our firearms program is handled and enforced by the RCMP. I can explain better via Pm if you'd like about the process as to not hijack and divert this forum to something off topic.
ATRS Shaun
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The short-barreled Tavors that came in were all traced and followed up.
The system in place now with the reference numbers leaves you one of two options, and both are a guilty plea of sorts.
You either have the rifle and lied to an officer OR you sold the firearm without a license verification (reference number).
It's like a choose your own adventure book... but they both lead to bad places.
Solution = Crimped body
What are you trying to get at? That this is not possible? This isn't my first rodeo, Iv just been up the past few days running on Colombian dark roast so apologizes if my order of operations seems out of order.
Gunnerlove
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So you want to make another cookie cutter LAR15 mag?
Well thats fine.
It just happens to be completely different from LAR15 mags.
Okay so it is not a LAR15 mag?
It would be a complication of a simple design, specifically designed to be easily converted to fit a specific centerfire semi auto rifle to get around capacity laws......
Well that sounds like breaking laws while lying to yourself.
I see your future. It is legal bills. All the legal bills.
I can recommend everybody to stay away from those magazines. Canada is 5 rounds, NOT 10. 10 rounds are for manufactured commonly available magazines for Pistols, not garage/basement produced, not commonly available magazines. Get over it.
When a post like this starts with "our stupid gun laws by a liberal gun owner hating government" - you already know.
I haven't done anything yet roger rabbit so no need to jump to conclusions. I'll talk with my firearms lawyer before I proceed with anything. Worst comes to worst it would be like a 5rd crossmag stainless steel lined polymer or just straight polymer. Currently the crypto mags are just polymer and oversized looking for the capacity it has, it could be almost half the length it is currently to save space in a range bag etc.
The Crypto magazine well is essentially that of any STANAG magazine accepting rifle, EXCEPT that there are ridges in the magazine well to keep STANAG magazines out. It has been reported that a Crypto magazine will fit a and function in a STANAG magazine well.
Current law would preclude the Crypto from being marketed if it accepted the STANAG magazine. Hence the proprietary design.
A 5 rd. steel magazine with indentations to clear the Crypto ridges would be perfectly acceptable. A steel magazine would avoid the reported issues encountered with the thin walled current magazine. Capacity should be 5 1/2 rds. to allow the magazine to be easily locked in place when the bolt is closed.
Being able to couple two five rounders would no doubt sell. Popular with gunshop commandos. A boot to give the 5 rd. magazine 30 round length would appeal to Service Rifle competitors.
There is no Crypto pistol, so a 10 rd. magazine could be problematic.
It would be worth considering a standard length magazine body with full length ridges indented to permanently limit capacity to 5 rds.
A plastic/steel magazine results in a magazine with thicker walls than necessary. Go with steel.
Current law would preclude the Crypto from being marketed if it accepted the STANAG magazine. Hence the proprietary design.
A 5 rd. steel magazine with indentations to clear the Crypto ridges would be perfectly acceptable. A steel magazine would avoid the reported issues encountered with the thin walled current magazine. Capacity should be 5 1/2 rds. to allow the magazine to be easily locked in place when the bolt is closed.
Being able to couple two five rounders would no doubt sell. Popular with gunshop commandos. A boot to give the 5 rd. magazine 30 round length would appeal to Service Rifle competitors.
There is no Crypto pistol, so a 10 rd. magazine could be problematic.
It would be worth considering a standard length magazine body with full length ridges indented to permanently limit capacity to 5 rds.
A plastic/steel magazine results in a magazine with thicker walls than necessary. Go with steel.
If you try to crimp a polymer lined mag you're gonna have a bad time, if you insert the polymer after crimping why did you even crimp it?
If you have a good 10 rd solution and are just not communicating well I suggest you keep your idea under your hat and in development until after regime change.
Your right, around election time would be perfect as most of our politicians are running around like headless chickens around that time of year.
Exactly, "and then it is up to the end user to take the 5 round limiter out or not". I am sure some people will got there or find it appealing.
Heck, everything is possible as long as you don't get caught.
Look at the SL8 version 4 and 5 for example:
- standard 5 round magazine cost $129
- PMAG G36 is around $50/60, in order to fit the SL8, you either modify the mag (takes 10 minutes) but is still remains at 30/5
- grind out the tabs in the magazine well so all SL8 and G36 magazines will fit
- buy a mag adapter and AR magazines can be used
All legal.
Looking at the current problems with the proprietary Crusader magazines, I would opt for the option to modify the magwell since the SL8 provides a case (AR magwell can be legally imported) - hence I asked for pictures of the magwell before and after. I would not even think about using a modified magazine other than the currently ones commercially available. Too fine of a line to walk on.
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The shape does not lend itself well to progressive stamping dies, $100k minimum in die development costs alone to get something that isn't a jam-o-matic. There is a good reason the crypto mags don't have removable floor plates. If you offshore the work good luck at the border.
