how about working towards a solution, rather than accusations?
I would rather entirely stick to this objective, though I don't generally like the colour red.
There are a couple of items raised here that I do not know the progress of, or answers to that as a competitive shooter I would like to know.
Exactly! one error in your above statement "the APRA cannot verify they weren't paid."
I believe the APRA does NOT have to prove anything here
From what I have been told, the APRA not having to prove that funds are missing sounds reasonable but raises a couple of inconsistencies in my understanding:
Is it not true that the current CSRA exec has offered to pay whatever back dues that can be illustrated, and that the CSRA has offered(or paid?) the known outstanding dues?
I don't know the status of this, but it sounds like an early starting point from how I understand the situation.
Perfect example of "buy a membership and never get involved".
Very Very Very Very true!
The fact of the matter is that all ranges in the Homestead complex, including the public range, are setup from the perspective of being an operation cost(dues) + participation basis. Theoretically, only those that participate should be out there. There has been long divergence from this however.
I think that all who participate out there know that most(all?) clubs want more participant members. There are a number on this thread(myself included) who have recruited competitive shooters first, then attempted to triage them into the appropriate club. There is a bunch of common ground that we should be sticking to IMO.
Trouble is, there are only two entities here
I don't like any of the analogies that I have seen used in this situation, nor analogies in general. They all have one problem, which lay in the definition of analogy -- They do not completely define the problem.
The way I see the current situation is that there are a bunch of well meaning, competitive shooters, who are willing to meet any set of rules laid out by the APRA, and wish to participate. Some of these have been participant members for years. Some of these are first time members and competitors in 2011.
I don't think anyone from this group has the foggiest idea as to what is going on in terms of the go forward, or the holdups therein, though I think that most(if not all) from this group are willing to accommodate whatever it is that is the holdup near term, and long term.
If anyone can shed some light on this, please ping me offline. I'd love to chat via PM, or meet for coffee, or a call, or whatever. I would rather not have the conversation on a public forum though as most in this thread are quite passionate about competitive shooting, and most(all?) only have portions of the story at their disposal.
The other thing is that not all on this forum are pro-shooting sports, and airing shooting sport laundry here is not smart IMO.
Of course, if someone feels that something I said is not correct, correct it on the forum(or ping me, and I'll correct it). I would rather not engage in the political side here other than to get back out there participating, and bring as many participant members as possible with me.
