calgaryhkguy
Regular
I've been following this situation for awhile both on the APRA website and here on Gunnutz... I'm one of the new shooters that carbonrod was talking about. I have a new M14S that is sitting in the safe because this issue kept me from taking it out in Jan for a battle rifle shoot. As I watch the shells going back and forth between the two parties here I can tell that this issue is never going to get resolved.
Some of the parties feel that this is about money.. nope the service rifle guys said they would pay what is owed. In fact I'm willing to kick in some cash above and beyond what I need to join to make that happen as well. APRA could pick and number and CSRA would pay it. That is clear from all the posts and the documents on the APRA website.
Some of the parties feel that this is about holding the CSRA accountable for their choice in executives and lack of organization. I'm sure this is correct for some people, but not all. I feel holding people accountable for actions of people they removed as soon as they understood what the problem was is rather vindictive.
This is about emotion. This is about punishing the CSRA because someone that they elected to represent them screwed up and now someone needs to punish them! So the people on the committee have a charter to "get to the bottom of this", find the "guilty" and make them pay. Now if the service rifle guys change the executives, go full disclosure on the books, pay whatever it needs too, it doesn't matter because where is the emotional payoff in that? How about a public crucifixion to show people not to screw with the APRA, now that is something people can get behind!.
I also know with Beltfed that he is also emotional on this subject as well. I can tell that he is feeling like he is trying to resolve a problem and can't figure out the rules. I've read everything that is posted and currently the only solution I can see that will placate the APRA is folding the CSRA. I could be incorrect is this but remember that is using the information that is public on both forums. In absence of evidence this is what I have concluded. I look forward to being corrected by a letter from the APRA outlining a path forward to this issue and stating that they are not interested in punishing the members of the CSRA.
The shooting sports seem to attract a lot of emotion these days. The public is opposed to it, the sporting clays guys hate the pistol guys, the long rifle guys hate the black rifle guys and so on. I wish everyone would keep their opinions to themselves on this, because a united front is the only thing that will keep this sport alive. I expect that within 10 years the only outdoor range that will be still functioning in Alberta will be the homestead range but not if this is how we portray our sport to the public. We are coming off as a bunch of whiny, bickering children that can't find solutions to simple problems because we refuse to work together. If we keep this up we are done.
Flame away, I don't care if you think I'm being harsh. All I want to do is go shoot service rifle, poorly, on my limited time off from my extremely stressful job. Our sports should be less stressful that our regular job but they will not be if this is how we continue to act. Remember the MVMA? ATHL/IDPA? these are two examples of situations in Alberta that were the same issue. Emotion.
Some of the parties feel that this is about money.. nope the service rifle guys said they would pay what is owed. In fact I'm willing to kick in some cash above and beyond what I need to join to make that happen as well. APRA could pick and number and CSRA would pay it. That is clear from all the posts and the documents on the APRA website.
Some of the parties feel that this is about holding the CSRA accountable for their choice in executives and lack of organization. I'm sure this is correct for some people, but not all. I feel holding people accountable for actions of people they removed as soon as they understood what the problem was is rather vindictive.
This is about emotion. This is about punishing the CSRA because someone that they elected to represent them screwed up and now someone needs to punish them! So the people on the committee have a charter to "get to the bottom of this", find the "guilty" and make them pay. Now if the service rifle guys change the executives, go full disclosure on the books, pay whatever it needs too, it doesn't matter because where is the emotional payoff in that? How about a public crucifixion to show people not to screw with the APRA, now that is something people can get behind!.
I also know with Beltfed that he is also emotional on this subject as well. I can tell that he is feeling like he is trying to resolve a problem and can't figure out the rules. I've read everything that is posted and currently the only solution I can see that will placate the APRA is folding the CSRA. I could be incorrect is this but remember that is using the information that is public on both forums. In absence of evidence this is what I have concluded. I look forward to being corrected by a letter from the APRA outlining a path forward to this issue and stating that they are not interested in punishing the members of the CSRA.
The shooting sports seem to attract a lot of emotion these days. The public is opposed to it, the sporting clays guys hate the pistol guys, the long rifle guys hate the black rifle guys and so on. I wish everyone would keep their opinions to themselves on this, because a united front is the only thing that will keep this sport alive. I expect that within 10 years the only outdoor range that will be still functioning in Alberta will be the homestead range but not if this is how we portray our sport to the public. We are coming off as a bunch of whiny, bickering children that can't find solutions to simple problems because we refuse to work together. If we keep this up we are done.
Flame away, I don't care if you think I'm being harsh. All I want to do is go shoot service rifle, poorly, on my limited time off from my extremely stressful job. Our sports should be less stressful that our regular job but they will not be if this is how we continue to act. Remember the MVMA? ATHL/IDPA? these are two examples of situations in Alberta that were the same issue. Emotion.
