Custom sks to look like AK-47

Basically running them side by side, the Valmet is a vastly superior gun in all configurations. The SKS is alright for what it is, but that's like saying a mini-van is ok compared to a nice 4x4... both are good in their own right, just one is significantly better in all ways and has the edge in almost all, aside from weight.

I see where you're coming from, but I think your analogy is quite a bit off: The minivan and 4x4 were designed for different purposes, have different engines, different drivetrains, different suspensions, different tires, and a different layout.

Perhaps a better analogy would be to compare a Kia sedan to a Lexus sedan. The Lexus is certainly much better, but like the sks vs valmet, both do the same thing (drive along at the speed limit). Some People are willing to pay 3 times as much for the Lexus - and maybe it's worth it. But for the price of a valmet, I could by THIRTY SKSs. THIRTY!! And still have enough left over to buy a few crates of ammo!! And you know what? They'll go bang every time too, just like the valmet.

I get wanting quality, and exclusivity. That's cool. I just hate seeing someone new to the sport getting dumped on for wanting to dress up his sks, and not drop a down payment on a house on a rifle that doesn't do anything his won't



...Personally I think dressing up an SKS is a waste of time, but hey, whatever tickles your fancy.

I agree. Not something I'd do, but if it floats your boat...
 
I second the vz58, it's a happy medium. Get a used one for 700 ish, put some nice wood on it, done. It runs the same as both the valmet and sks, very little money into it, vastly superior in terms of ergonomics and function to the sks, the mag is close to the grip just like an ak, no Grand Canyon in between them like the sks. The vz is made for detachable mags, they're cheap and work perfectly, can get a release like an ak so you can do mag changes like one. Much better choice if your just after the looks of an ak and don't have thousands to spend on the valmet.
 
You guys... Lol

Both are wood stock, semi-autos that throw .30 cal chunks of metal at the same speed with the same accuracy.

You CANNOT tell me there's $5,000 dollars worth of difference there.



The "buy once cry once" philosophy is typically reserved for situations where the consumer risks over paying (in cash or sweat equity) by buying cheap and having to spend more on it than had he/she purchased the better model in the first place. It absolutely does not apply in this situation where the better gun has literally no difference aside from asthetics and an offensive price tag.

Actually yes I can tell you there is $5000 difference in the 2. And trust me on this, once you hold and fire off a Valmet. You too will want one EVEN if your wallet won't allow it
 
Paying 5,000$ for a valmet is as dumb as Americans paying 1,200$ for a Chinese m14. An ask variant of any kind is not worth 5k$. That's just crazy talk

Why?

They're not made anymore, and are in demand. They are worth $5000 because that is what people are willing to pay for one. Now, this value is artificially inflated due to our gun laws, but price is based on supply and demand, not what you "think" is fair.
 
Oh the Red Rifles section.. sigh.

I didn't mean to open a can of worms here. If you want a rifle that looks like an AK but is affordable get a CZ 858 or vz. 58 as suggested, they're fine rifles. Just like the SKS is a fine rifle and the Valmets are fine rifles. The most successful firearm design in modern history and made by the Finns -- that's quality. I personally prefer the SKS over the AK because I appreciate the milled steel and more classic look but it's all subjective. I like the vz. and the Valmets as well.
 
Actually yes I can tell you there is $5000 difference in the 2. And trust me on this, once you hold and fire off a Valmet. You too will want one EVEN if your wallet won't allow it

No! Lol.

You can't, out of one side of your mouth, tell the anti's that "a gun is a gun. This 7.62x39 and this 7.62x39 are essentially the same so it makes no sense that one's restricted and one's not", and out of the other side of your mouth say "these two guns are VASTLY different and this one is worth 30 times more than that one"

You can't have it both ways.

Honest question: What, specifically, does the valmet do that the sks can't? Objectively, why's it better? Why's it 30 times better?

I have no doubt that the fit and Finnish (ha ha, Freudian autocorrect slip) is better. Im sure the ergonomics are far superior too. But aside from those, what does it do differently?
 
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No! Lol.

You can't, out of one side of your mouth, tell the anti's that "a gun is a gun. This 7.62x39 and this 7.62x39 are essentially the same so it makes no sense that one's restricted and one's not", and out of the other side of your mouth say "these two guns are VASTLY different and this one is worth 30 times more than that one"

You can't have it both ways.

Honest question: What, specifically, does the valmet do that the sks can't? Objectively, why's it better? Why's it 30 times better?

I have no doubt that the fit and Finnish (ha ha, Freudian autocorrect slip) is better. Im sure the ergonomics are far superior too. But aside from those, what does it do differently?

What can I say. Some people just don't get it
 
Honestly 5k for a real AK nomatter how good the quality is pretty insane. You could get a good used CZ 858, a tavor and a Springfield M14 all at that price. Or save up abit more for a DTA SRS. Cant justify that kind of expense for the marginal improvement in quality and originality the Valmet offers. But to each his own.
 
No! Lol.

You can't, out of one side of your mouth, tell the anti's that "a gun is a gun. This 7.62x39 and this 7.62x39 are essentially the same so it makes no sense that one's restricted and one's not", and out of the other side of your mouth say "these two guns are VASTLY different and this one is worth 30 times more than that one"

You can't have it both ways.

Honest question: What, specifically, does the valmet do that the sks can't? Objectively, why's it better? Why's it 30 times better?

I have no doubt that the fit and Finnish (ha ha, Freudian autocorrect slip) is better. Im sure the ergonomics are far superior too. But aside from those, what does it do differently?

What does it do better than everything? Hard to say...

It's also worth noting that the only reason the SKS is a $200 rifle is because it is a readily available surplus rifle. Producing a new one would cost 5x what they are selling for now. Good thing Ivan paid for it 50 years ago.
 
Hi, Guys! and Girls!

Here is my Bubba version of it. Lol
I was inspired by the same guy. I had a SKS-D with a really beat up Monte Carlo, so I took the stock and made this
 
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No! Lol.

You can't, out of one side of your mouth, tell the anti's that "a gun is a gun. This 7.62x39 and this 7.62x39 are essentially the same so it makes no sense that one's restricted and one's not", and out of the other side of your mouth say "these two guns are VASTLY different and this one is worth 30 times more than that one"

You can't have it both ways.

Honest question: What, specifically, does the valmet do that the sks can't? Objectively, why's it better? Why's it 30 times better?

I have no doubt that the fit and Finnish (ha ha, Freudian autocorrect slip) is better. Im sure the ergonomics are far superior too. But aside from those, what does it do differently?


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I don't need to have it both ways (funny how you get that from what i said) cuz I have it everyway with my rifles :p
 
You can't, out of one side of your mouth, tell the anti's that "a gun is a gun. This 7.62x39 and this 7.62x39 are essentially the same so it makes no sense that one's restricted and one's not", and out of the other side of your mouth say "these two guns are VASTLY different and this one is worth 30 times more than that one"

You can't have it both ways.

What kind of empty, sophistic argument is that? Of course we can have it both ways.

The "a gun is a gun is a gun" statement is in no way about how all guns are the same in quality, quantity, precision, and enjoyment / giggle factor. Its a statement about the fact that there is no difference in lethality between rifles that have different mechanisms.

If you are under the impression that when folks say "a gun is a gun is a gun" they mean that there is no difference between a $200 gun and a $5k one, then you have EXTREMELY serious comprehension and discernment issues.

I'm not sure why you're trying to make a parallel with arguments used to debate antis. Completely ridiculous and besides the subject of discussion.

Honest question: What, specifically, does the valmet do that the sks can't? Objectively, why's it better? Why's it 30 times better?

I have no doubt that the fit and Finnish (ha ha, Freudian autocorrect slip) is better. Im sure the ergonomics are far superior too. But aside from those, what does it do differently?

Tell you what, go right ahead and buy all the cheapest, most common rifles out there thinking you have no reason to spend more on other platforms, if you are satisfied with the basic function of shooting bullets down a barrel. No one here will stop you.

In the mean time, the rest of us will enjoy life and all the guns you don't want. :d
Feel better? :rolleyes:
 
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