CZ 452 SCOUT - Love Thread, Share your Pics, Experiences, Questions, Answers

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Couldn't find a dedicated CZ452 Scout love thread. So this. Anybody who has anything to say, good or bad, pictures to post, shooting experiences, tips, anything......about this little 22 that can do practically anything a 22 should do, please share.

Thought for the day: If your lucky enough to own one of these, please do not ever sell it in a fit of insanity.:) You will regret it.

Here's mine. Snagged off the EE last year, after years of waiting.

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I have a twin to Benders shot the 50 yd challenge with ease. Have also dispatched a good number of crows :d


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I had one and tried to love it, but it was the least accurate of any 452 I've ever owned by a long shot... wouldn't hardly group into an inch at 20 yards with several different types of ammo.
 
My scout has been sitting in my safe since I bought it new three years ago and it has never been shot.

In 30 days it will be my youngest boys birthday present he is going to be 9, I can't wait to see his face.
 
No fair..lol I post a WTB ad a week or so back for one of these, next thing I know...er604 wants to drive-up demand!:d
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22LR, one motivation for starting this thread is to perhaps catch the attention of CZ and push them to produce 452 Scouts again. I want another one. In fact I only have to confirm the 100 meter accuracy of my Scout and if it is comparable to the Varmint or Style, I have some decisions to make.

Reading US advertisements of the 455, CZ is in the midst of revamping its 455 line to incorporate the 452 action with the 455's interchangeable barrel feature.
No thank you, CZ, just give me the tried and proven traditional 452 action and barrel. They have bumped up 455 Scout specs, now with threaded muzzles and better open sights.

Years ago, one of the attractions of the Scout was its much lower price compared to the full size models. I admit that then, price was a factor for me. The last batch of Scouts at Wanstall's was $520+(IIRC), not really in the inexpensive category. Current prices of full size 455s at Reliable Gun start at $549 The cost to produce a Scout barrelled action is not much less than the cost to produce an American or Varmint.

I see the compactness, lighter weight, quick handling and accuracy of the Scout as advantages. Even if they priced the Scout at the same price as a low-end full size, it's still worth it.

I am thinking that CZ may have killed the 452 Scout line due to its low price point, that competed in sales, yet delivered a lower profit contribution compared to full sized models. Initially, CZ probably figured that Dads would buy Scouts for their kids, and they were not wrong, a lot of Dads did exactly that.

What I think they did not foresee was that more and more of these Dads were liking these Scouts, to the detriment of their full size models. This is what happened to me.

I originally was looking for a Scout for my grandson. The Savage MKIGY was too long and heavy for him. Scout was not lighter, so did not appeal to my grandson. But I liked it instantly. Its compact length, light weight, overall quality and good looks (just like my Style and Varmint) and of course its accuracy, immediately endeared it to myself. Eventually my grandson will own it, for sure.
 
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As far as accuracy, I have only shot my Scout at our 17 yd indoor club, and rifle-rested, 5 shot groups were ragged one-holers, with Win 333 or 555 bulk or Thunderbolts, just like my 452 Style and Varmint.
 
I am following this thread to see if the Scout sparks my interest again. I like compact 22's. They're fun to have around for plinking. I have a couple Marlin 39A Mountie's I bought for my kids as they grow up, but i've claimed them for now and one has become a favourite.

I was about to buy a new Scout a few months ago from Prophet River for $525, but not coming with a factory mag killed the deal. With mediocre sights and no magazine at that price point, I would be better off with a full size 452. But then I already have a 455. You see my dilemma.
 
I did this one up for my 11 year old grandson a few of years ago and he loved it. Then I did some customizing on it , put in a yodave trigger kit then bedded it into a boyds PV stock that I shortend the lop and forend on .Last fall i let him shoot my 20 vartarg so now he has lost all interest in in 22 rimfire and wants to trade Grandpa his CZ for the Vartarg lol.
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easyrider604 said:
22LR, one motivation for starting this thread is to perhaps catch the attention of CZ and push them to produce 452 Scouts again. I want another one. In fact I only have to confirm the 100 meter accuracy of my Scout and if it is comparable to the Varmint or Style, I have some decisions to make.

Reading US advertisements of the 455, CZ is in the midst of revamping its 455 line to incorporate the 452 action with the 455's interchangeable barrel feature.
No thank you, CZ, just give me the tried and proven traditional 452 action and barrel. They have bumped up 455 Scout specs, now with threaded muzzles and better open sights.

Years ago, one of the attractions of the Scout was its much lower price compared to the full size models. I admit that then, price was a factor for me. The last batch of Scouts at Wanstall's was $520+(IIRC), not really in the inexpensive category. Current prices of full size 455s at Reliable Gun start at $549 The cost to produce a Scout barrelled action is not much less than the cost to produce an American or Varmint.

I see the compactness, lighter weight, quick handling and accuracy of the Scout as advantages. Even if they priced the Scout at the same price as a low-end full size, it's still worth it.

I am thinking that CZ may have killed the 452 Scout line due to its low price point, that competed in sales, yet delivered a lower profit contribution compared to full sized models. Initially, CZ probably figured that Dads would buy Scouts for their kids, and they were not wrong, a lot of Dads did exactly that.

What I think they did not foresee was that more and more of these Dads were liking these Scouts, to the detriment of their full size models. This is what happened to me.

I originally was looking for a Scout for my grandson. The Savage MKIGY was too long and heavy for him. Scout was not lighter, so did not appeal to my grandson. But I liked it instantly. Its compact length, light weight, overall quality and good looks (just like my Style and Varmint) and of course its accuracy, immediately endeared it to myself. Eventually my grandson will own it, for sure.
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^I hope that proves to be the case. I get a company's desire to improve the profit margin, but in my experience...the barrel-swap feature doesn't hold a shred of interest to any rimfire shooters I know, and a I know a few. Certainly isn't something I'd ever trade the tried-and-true 452 action for. Ever. Its a bit of a bummer to me to see a company like CZ going in this direction to be honest, as there aren't any other companies producing such fine rimfire guns in the $500-$600 range. In my mind, new CZs are no longer "on the radar" for me. If the 452 was still being produced, I could see adding at least 1 or 2 more to the collection before my time is up. I only wish I'd gotten into CZ ownership back when you stood a chance of finding a 452 in 17M2. I'd grab one of those for sure.
 
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^I hope that proves to be the case. I get a company's desire to improve the profit margin, but in my experience...the barrel-swap feature doesn't hold a shred of interest to any rimfire shooters I know, and a I know a few. Certainly isn't something I'd ever trade the tried-and-true 452 action for. Ever. Its a bit of a bummer to me to see a company like CZ going in this direction to be honest, as there aren't any other companies producing such fine rimfire guns in the $500-$600 range. In my mind, new CZs are no longer "on the radar" for me. If the 452 was still being produced, I could see adding at least 1 or 2 more to the collection before my time is up. I only wish I'd gotten into CZ ownership back when you stood a chance of finding a 452 in 17M2. I'd grab one of those for sure.
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^^ ditto, the barrel swap is well... Silly to me.
 
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..........I was about to buy a new Scout a few months ago from Prophet River for $525, but not coming with a factory mag killed the deal. With mediocre sights and no magazine at that price point, I would be better off with a full size 452. But then I already have a 455. You see my dilemma.
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Firstly, CZ purists absolutely abhor the 455:dancingbanana::kickInTheNuts:, just kidding!

You meant no magazine at all, but instead it would come with a single shot adapter, right?

I actually like single-shots. The only thing that conscerns me with single shots is that the extractor snaps around the cartridge rim, instead of sliding into the rim when stripping a round from the magazaine. I'm looking for a SS adaptor, and might have to pick up a spare extractor/s and the C-spring that holds it in place.
 
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Firstly, CZ purists absolutely abhor the 455:dancingbanana::kickInTheNuts:, just kidding!

You meant no magazine at all, but instead it would come with a single shot adapter, right?

I actually like single-shots. The only thing that conscerns me with single shots is that the extractor snaps around the cartridge rim, instead of sliding into the rim when stripping a round from the magazaine. I'm looking for a SS adaptor, and might have to pick up a spare extractor/s and the C-spring that holds it in place.
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That's correct, no magazine at all. So adding a magazine for $50-60 or whatever it was killed the deal for me.

Yeah you can't teach an old dog (CZ purists) new tricks i guess! :stirthepot2: My 455 shoots lasers beyond 100 yards and looks great in the Canadian stock!
 
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455 Scout description
Built to be an ideal first gun for young shooters, the Scout has a short 12” length of pull. With simple leaf rear sight and blade front (rear adjustable for windage, front for elevation), learning the basics of sight picture has never been easier. 11mm dovetails on the receiver make adding a scope a breeze.

Own a suppressor? 455 Scouts have a muzzle that’s threaded 1/2×28, allowing for hearing-safe shooting without the need for muffs or plugs.

Now that the Scout has transitioned to our 455 line, adding a larger stock is easier than ever once kids outgrow the short length of pull. The entire 455 platform is modular, meaning swapping different barrels/chamberings or stocks is done quickly and easily with only a few tools.

Shipped with a single shot adapter to teach ammo conservation, any of the 455’s magazines will fit, from 5 to 25 rounds.

455 Stainless American (wish this were a 452) description
Our first stainless rimfire, the 455 American Stainless is meant to be a hardy, long-lived rifle that can be passed down through the generations. With the same swappable barrel system as all of our 455 rifles, both barrel and action are finished in a matte bead blast. Barrel length is 20.5, and the bolt and bolt handle are finished in a hardy black nitride.

The CZ 455 is the latest generation of the CZ bolt action rimfire. The 455 model will eventually consolidate all of the receivers currently used in the 452 line into one common platform. This combined with the new interchangeable barrel system of the CZ 455 will allow the user to easily change the stock configuration as well as the caliber of the rifle. The 455 retains the accuracy and quality of the adjustable trigger, hammer forged barrel and billet machined receiver from the CZ 452. Improvements that the 455 brings include new manufacturing technology and tighter tolerances for improved accuracy and smoother operation.

The 455 models feature an integral 11mm dovetail for scope mounting and a 5-round magazine.

JMHO, CZ is trying to sell us the idea that the "interchangeable barrel system" (IBS) is better than the threaded 452 system. Marketing genius at work here. I'm sure they can fool some people; maybe a slip on barrel can be as tight and accurate as a thread barrel, maybe.

What the IBS is, is a system that makes for a faster, read cheaper, way to machine and build the rifle receiver and barrel. Simple as that. The IBS benefit is a spin cooked up by the marketing department. Instead of setting up their CNCs to thread the receiver and the barrel, and have a technician screw them together, all they do is simply turn them and push them together in a jig. Production cost cut down by simpler tooling, set-up, machining and assembly. A few dollars saved that I would have gladly paid at retail, maybe $10 - 20 more.

Anyhow, that's CZ's business...rant over.

I do love stainless/rust resistant materials and finishes. Could be heresy, but thinking about the 455 American Stainless Synthetic....Hmmmm.
 
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