Dah prewf izz in dah pudd'in..............
Mind you, a feller gummutter's sold me a S2 in 257wm that did a darn
good job of almost comparing to this target at 100 yards...........................
Hmm sounds like a good gunnutter...
Cz 452 vs 455 ?
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Hmm sounds like a good gunnutter...
- Location
- Kelowna, BC
Be careful if you specifically want to buy a Lux:
The original 455 Lux doesn't have a schnabel foreend, and lacks the tangent sights. (Has a buckhorn-style LPA)
The newer 455 Lux II does have the good stuff, so make sure you get that one
The FS might not have tangent sights yet, either.
As everyone else said, they're fairly indistinguisable otherwise. I love my 455.
The original 455 Lux doesn't have a schnabel foreend, and lacks the tangent sights. (Has a buckhorn-style LPA)
The newer 455 Lux II does have the good stuff, so make sure you get that one
The FS might not have tangent sights yet, either.
As everyone else said, they're fairly indistinguisable otherwise. I love my 455.
- Location
- West Quebec
Just got a stable mate 455 American to keep my 452 American company they will have to compete to see which gets the better scope
Just enough on the locking lugs to make the bolt run smooth...
I haven't handled any CZ's in person, but have done some reading. I'm looking for an accurate midrange bolt 22wmr, and may be interested in either a 452 or 455.
I've read that the 452 has gloss bluing, but the 455 is matt. Is this true of all the variations? Also that the 452 has a less finished appearance with more machining marks and sharper edges on the receiver. Not sure that any of this makes any difference, but I do like gloss blue.
And while the consensus seems to be that either will be good rifle, many have commented that if available, should get the 452. So, it seems it is more desirable. Why?
Also, what are the opinions on heavy barrel varmint vs sporter barrel on a .22wmr? I don't live near any gopher patches, so high rates of fire aren't likely to be an issue for barrel heat.
I've read that the 452 has gloss bluing, but the 455 is matt. Is this true of all the variations? Also that the 452 has a less finished appearance with more machining marks and sharper edges on the receiver. Not sure that any of this makes any difference, but I do like gloss blue.
And while the consensus seems to be that either will be good rifle, many have commented that if available, should get the 452. So, it seems it is more desirable. Why?
Also, what are the opinions on heavy barrel varmint vs sporter barrel on a .22wmr? I don't live near any gopher patches, so high rates of fire aren't likely to be an issue for barrel heat.
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Either is a good rifle... I think you're going to pay a premium for the 452. I bought a beat up 22wmr 452 for a low price, but it's a gun that will get beat up in my use anyways... Folks think the 452 is a better gun as the barrel is threaded... The 455 has a barrel attached with screws for the interchangable barrel feature. Some say that the barrel interchange makes the gun more inaccurate than the threaded barrel of the 452/453. Personally, I don't think it matters unless you are using high grade match ammo, and even then, in 99% of cases, either gun will outshoot the folks using the gun...
PGT has a NIB 452 varmint in 22wmr $579
Lol, that's some funny crap right there, any decent rimfire should be able to do that at 25yds. Even quite a few lesser ones, especially one group.
I bought an old M60 Cooey off here last summer and cleaned it and checked the open sights - one hole like that at 25yds with CCI shorts after 3 shots to lube/warm er up.
Back to regular programming - I'd try the 455 Canadian as should hold value and you'll have something out if the norm when they stop production as it may be a limited run. 452's are desirable but 22mags aren't known for being real accurate and ammo is pricier 2.5-3x.
- Location
- Northeastern Ontario
The bluing is the same on all models (some receivers differ). As for appearances, if you were to look at two Americans, for example, one a 452 and the other a 455, you likely wouldn't be able to distinguish between them simply by looking, unless you knew the 452 had a longer barrel. For a more detailed comparison, see http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344852
Hmm. It's the 22wmr that I am considering.
Do you want a 22 mag? Ammo is about $16/50. As for accuracy in 22lr, I posted a friends group between a 452 varmint and a 455 varmint, the 455 won by .01 at 50 yds. We do a lot of shooting each year at gophers, (close to 7000 rds. in 3 1/2 days). 22 cost about 5-600 dollars 22 mag over 2 grand- I could not do it. The difference in the guns comes down to how it is stocked and what you like. I would have no second thought on a 455 or a 452. The Canadian is an interesting gun, you will be happy.
As I said, I don't live near any gopher patches, so high rates of shooting with the 22mag aren't likely, unless you are inviting me to yours
I already have 8 rifles in 22lr, and parts to build a 9th. I have a couple Win9410 in 22mag, and was thinking a bolt 22mag would be nice too.
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I have had several 452's over the years and they are good shooters.
The pretty ones shoot as good as the plain Jane ones too.
I had a 452 American with Walnut in .22 Mag and it shot just as well as the .22 rimfire.
Didnt really matter what ammo I would run with it, it shot to where the cross hairs where lined up on Mr.Ground Squirrel.
Purely hunting and not punching paper and teenty itty bitty holes.
The .22 Mag has a nice bark and those ground squirrels made a nice thwakkk when hit.
You can not go wrong with a CZ in either 452 or 455 ... and you can spend a whole lot more on those other European guns and find similar results.
Just some of my experiences with the CZ.
Rimfire Central is a really good place with great people and information on your rimfire of choice.
Tight Groups,
Rob
