CZ 600 - Available now and in stock

This is extremely disappointing…. That and the CRF are the primary reasons I want one of these…. It sounds like all they are doing is putting lock tight on the barrel screws?
 
Interesting, if you scroll down there's an FAQ. All 600 models. No parts are being replaced. They do say caliber conversions are still possible but only through authorized service centers. Attempting to do so on your own voids warranty.

So I guess they're putting a sticker over the screws that says removal voids warranty?
 
Wow, talk about R&D dollars down the drain. Kind of a bummer; whole design seemed to hinge on that. Wonder if it is still less expensive from a manufacturing perspective than a traditional barrel
 
One part of me wishes we got in some of the early models just so that we can play with them. There are so many questions that will be so much easier to answer when we have some of them on hand.
 
Last nail in the coffin for me on any 600's, the first being no 6.5x55.

Will keep my 527 and not bother with any new CZ rifles.

Too bad, I have 2 x 455 and a 527 and they are awesome rifles. The 455's I have changed barrels on both, no issues.
 
Yet another company that pissed away it's reputation for making good stuff to keep their margins thick.

conor_90 said:
Wow, talk about R&D dollars down the drain. Kind of a bummer; whole design seemed to hinge on that. Wonder if it is still less expensive from a manufacturing perspective than a traditional barrel
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What r&d dollars, they used hex screws. They easily could have done something robust like a cam locking interrupted thread, but instead they went for the lowest cost, cheapest option. And botched it too.
I hope the budget for the entire development wasn't more than like 500 bucks.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Seriously, how do you introduce a new line of rifles to cut costs, market them on having a removable barrel and not go "OK let's take some time here and think how the user could possibly screw this process up and make sure they can't."

CZ is over.
 
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You should send them a resume and ask about jobs in their R&D department, sounds like you have it figured out.

I don’t know if I’d put this on lawyers, apparently rifles fired with incorrectly installed barrels during testing; no reports of an owner with a blown up gun according to CZ. Might be a legitimate safety risk if they are pulling a feature they have been advertising for months as a big sell that appeals to Euro consumers. Might also be covering their ass and Cz approved gunsmiths will just be hitting screws with a heat gun and changing the barrel in 10 seconds like it was advertised; this seems a lot more likely.

I really don’t think this is the death knell of the 600, it’s competing with similarly priced firearms that don’t have its other features.

Still kind of into the idea of a 3 lug 60 degree throw CRF rifle with a top load detach magazine, modern dimension stock, integral pic mounts and alloy receiver, but some of the appeal is gone for sure. I really wanted to see how light an alpha could get with the contour on the lux models
 
conor_90 said:
You should send them a resume and ask about jobs in their R&D department, sounds like you have it figured out.
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There's nothing to "figure out".
CZ has for years now been discontinuing relatively excellent, well selling firearms purely to replace them with more cheaply made versions to give them a larger profit margin, or more realistically to keep the margins the same without significantly increasing retail in a world of rising costs.

It's not a question of needing to hire me or any other particular engineer to assist them in their "value engineering" endeavor, it's a question of as a consumer recognizing the CZ brand isn't what it used to be and looking elsewhere if you want a brand that distinguishes itself on craftsmanship and not "value" products.
 
I have learned not to react to recalls anymore. They are often small issues that have affected most brands, and this sounds like CZ is just covering their a$$es. Red loctite on three bolts is not really a big deal. Once I get mine, I will have my local Smith remove the bolts (and replace them if necessary) and reset with blue loctite. Let's hope spare barrels are readily available. Is the 600 built like the older Brno's and 550's? Of course not. All the big players are the same. Just buy a quality older rifle when you feel the need to admire nice wood, blued steel and no plastic, and take your modern rifle out in the rain to put meat in the freezer.

I for one like every CZ product made to date. The 600 will likely also fill a niche for my needs
 
It's very late. I suspect it was held up in CZ to ensure "the fix" was done and then shipped. I really hope Tesro DOES NOT tweak them if, by chance, they came "as originally designed". I am totally good with regularly checking torque on barrel screws!
 
Not Tesro's fault, but if I pre-ordered one of these with the expectation of user changeable barrels and it turns out that is not the case, I would be refusing the rifle and asking for my money back.

Basically CZ pulled a bait and switch IMHO. Definitely not as advertised.

"Due to its modular design, users can easily switch to a different caliber from the range for a given receiver size, or switch to a different barrel profile (limited by the stock design). When reassembling the barrel, accuracy is guaranteed after the first cold shot."
 
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