CZ 600 ergo as a deer rifle?
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These are issues I have with my 557 , it’s also heavy as heck. I bought a 455 that is unreal so, naturally I bought a center fire to go along with it
, turned out to be a friggin tank when it showed up. Wife likes it though so it stays. I’m not sure I’ll buy another cz centerfire other than a 527… I’ll continue to buy the rimfire platforms tough, they’re tough to beat and generally very nice quality wood.
Got a rail on it now, ran into another problem though that I should have remembered...
Because the front holes are so far away, I couldn't use lowish rings as the ocular hits the front of the rail when you move the scope back.
So switched some rings off another rifle for proper clearance. Luckily still have a proper and good cheek weld with the stock design.
Looks dumb as #### though with my 3-9x40 Redfield, I'll probably throw a longer 4-12 or 5-15 on it so it looks more professional lol.
I hate this thing already, but I'm going to shoot it, has to be some redeeming qualities and hopefully it's in the accuracy lol.
Because the front holes are so far away, I couldn't use lowish rings as the ocular hits the front of the rail when you move the scope back.
So switched some rings off another rifle for proper clearance. Luckily still have a proper and good cheek weld with the stock design.
Looks dumb as #### though with my 3-9x40 Redfield, I'll probably throw a longer 4-12 or 5-15 on it so it looks more professional lol.
I hate this thing already, but I'm going to shoot it, has to be some redeeming qualities and hopefully it's in the accuracy lol.
Ain't pretty but aside from the goofy safety, I kinda dig the Ergo. The bolt is slick and the gun feels good in the hands
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Put up a photo. I'd like ti see it. Also, can you post a photo of the firing pin?
Here you go...scope mounting, dinky firing pin, huge mag and how far the cartridges can slide around.
More goodness... extractor spring is a straight wire, pics of the bolt lugs, pretty tiny and with the cams machined into them only about 1/3 left for actual contact. I'd bet the entire surface area of the 6 bolt lugs that make contact add up to less area then 1 lug on a 2 bolt lug...
More goodness... extractor spring is a straight wire, pics of the bolt lugs, pretty tiny and with the cams machined into them only about 1/3 left for actual contact. I'd bet the entire surface area of the 6 bolt lugs that make contact add up to less area then 1 lug on a 2 bolt lug...
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Thanks for posting those pics. I wonder what an M98 pin looks like next to the 600 pin. From the photo, it appears quite standard. Interesting observation regarding the locking lugs and you're probably right. On my 577's there's also room for the rounds to slide around but I've always made sure to avoid short stroking.
I should have used something for scale, but it's dinky, only other one I've seen similar design is Tikka firing pins. I have no idea what that lone C clip is doing on there.
I'll take some pics with it and a few other pins, 700, 98, Howa, Browning, they all make this look like a toothpick lol
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I can tell you that I have dry fired my 557's and Tikka's without issue. I wonder why CZ opted for such a toothpick on the 600 series?
Probably the absolute cheapest way to manufacture something that still works. Barely. As long as you don’t dry fire it. Same as that extractor spring.
For me the Lux version is a little too heavy, for deer hunting, I carry a Vanguard most of the time [not a light rifle], after a few kilometres anything heavier than that bothers my shoulder. I see the Ergo is lighter but after seeing the pictures Hitzy shared it wont make it on to my wish list. too many shortcomings.
The cons far outweigh the pro's with this design.
And as history has shown, switch barrel rifles are not that desirable in North America with the exception of the Thompson Center single shots, which in itself is not that desirable, people want repeaters.
Just too many complications designing a switch barrel system. Thompson made probably the most economical and simple switch barrel in the Dimension rifle, but it was so ugly nobody wanted one and it flopped hard lol.
I still haven't shot this thing, next weekend will have time, but I hate it every time I look at it or pick it up.
The 527 and 550's were amazing rifles, 557 was just your run of the mill push feed with nothing really standing out with it. CZ #### the bed dropping those and making these cheap crap 600's.
I'd buy used 527's and 550's, even old BRNO ZKK's before l ever look at another CZ600.
I'm sure I'm going to dump this thing after I shoot it.
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CZ totally blew it on the 600 design fer me. All they had to do was slim out the 557 a tad and fit the barrel to the action with the Brewer type locknut method like
many modern makers have adopted over the yrs. Gotta hate it when fookin' marketing shmucks have direction over production.
Dildos!
many modern makers have adopted over the yrs. Gotta hate it when fookin' marketing shmucks have direction over production.
Dildos!
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This was the exact impression i had on the CZ 600. Lots of corners cut. A budget rifle. Shooting it got me warmed up to it though. The rifle runs a lot smoother than one would expect and you get typical CZ accuracy to go with it.
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If you call deep bluing, slick feeding, lovely walnut and stellar accuracy "run of the mill" I am not sure what push feeds you are using. The 557 only suffered in sales because CZ dropped CRF and push feed is a simpler and more economical design. They hit the saturated push feed market way too late meeting well established competition (Tikka T3x, Howa 1500, 700, Savage, Ruger American, etc.), which was a strategic mistake for CZ. There's nothing fancy about a 557, but that's its strength. Its a solid (albeit a bit heavy), well built rifle that works well out-of-the-box, and was well priced. It's bluing, wood stocks, synthetic stocks and overall finishing out-classed most of its direct competition. Except for the.entry Eclipse model, they"re all wood (or quality synthetic stock) and steel. The Range Rifle and SA Lux models being real stand-outs in the 557 range and take a back seat to nothing under $2000. Yes, I wish the 557 had a 3-positiion safety, but not a deal breaker and I own enough CRF rifles to satisfy that itch.
I am looking at a CZ badged Brno 537 right now.
A basic CRF that isn't fancy, but is built like a tank and is reliable--basically a standard 550 with a slightly heavier profile barrel. Why? Because those old school CRF factory sporters are like gold and I like sound investments.
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This is another one in nicer condition on #######. Yep, prices are creeping up!
Shot the 8mm Lux today, still hate it, maybe even more lol.
Kicks like a mule due to the stonck design, wasn't overly accurate. Shot about 10 rounds for groups after sighting in, can't call it MOA, everything else we had out shot fantastic which made up for it, CZ 527 223 which was a ragged hole shooter, BRNO 222 also ragged hole groups.
Gonna dump the 600j on consignment cheap locally just to get it out of my sight lol.
I did find a nice ridiculously heavy and impractical replacement for it already that I'm pretty happy with, I'll start a new thread for that one.
CZ 600 Lux gets a big thumbs down from me, they #### the bed with this thing, it sucks.
Kicks like a mule due to the stonck design, wasn't overly accurate. Shot about 10 rounds for groups after sighting in, can't call it MOA, everything else we had out shot fantastic which made up for it, CZ 527 223 which was a ragged hole shooter, BRNO 222 also ragged hole groups.
Gonna dump the 600j on consignment cheap locally just to get it out of my sight lol.
I did find a nice ridiculously heavy and impractical replacement for it already that I'm pretty happy with, I'll start a new thread for that one.
CZ 600 Lux gets a big thumbs down from me, they #### the bed with this thing, it sucks.
