CZ 600 recall

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In case you are waiting for CZ 600, you might be very disappointed.

Last week CZ issued a warning about safety issue, now they came out with details and a conclusion:

https://cz600recall.com/

I'll be honest, when Sig Cross had issues with the trigger I thought it was quite a PR hit to the brand. But with this CZ recall and proposed "fix" they are going to do.... I stand in awe.

They are fixing the barrels to receivers, you can't change barrels anymore! They MISSED a small detail that screws walk out from the receiver, so they designed, tested, marketed and started to sell barrel swappable rifle design only to find out it won't work. How this can be even possible is beyond my understanding. Honestly... how it could be? They killed whole 557 line and 527 line for a CZ 600 design which does not even work and they had to sell it first to end users to find out. And the solution is - "send it back, we are going to lock tight the screws". In FAQ they state "Will you be replacing any parts? - No". They won't even make a fixed receivers, just weld the screws....

In awe, I'm telling you, in fcking awe.
 
Locktite on the threads of the bolt is not the same as welding them in place.... unless they are using some sort of "permanent" adhesive?

It's not a good roll out that's for sure but I find it hard to imagine they won't be able to figure it out.


Edit, just watched a recent "report" and as you say, it does sound like they are going to use some sort of adhesive between the barrel and the receiver and that barrel swaps would need to be done by authorized techs.... that's a bummer. Hopefully they can figure out a better solution that allows for easy at home barrel swaps.
 
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This is huge.

A switch-barrel rifle, except that you can't switch the barrels?

Sounds to me like more than a few CZ engineers are going to be looking for work soon.
 
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Rob said:
This is huge. A switch-barrel rifle, except that you can't switch the barrels. Sounds to me like more than a few CZ engineers are going to be looking for work soon.
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Not only that. It was supposed to be all the bolt action rifles replacing all 527, 557 lines. If CZ 600 suddenly becomes fixed barrel rifle all the extra price and cost calculations, expected sales, expected ROI are going out of the window, so financially CZ is going to lose on the whole bolt action line.
 
What a colossal f-up. However, I'll see what I receive and I will report back on what they did to "fix" the problem. Red loctite is no problem with heat, but some space age adhesive could pose a big problem for home Smith's.

I have no problems at all with my 557's, and I see there's still some left over with various retailers. Just sayin.
 
I have been waiting with great anticipation to handle the Ergo and Alpha with plans to get one in 6mm CM.

Looks like shelving that plan for a while is prudent.
 
owlowl said:
In case you are waiting for CZ 600, you might be very disappointed.

Last week CZ issued a warning about safety issue, now they came out with details and a conclusion:

https://cz600recall.com/

I'll be honest, when Sig Cross had issues with the trigger I thought it was quite a PR hit to the brand. But with this CZ recall and proposed "fix" they are going to do.... I stand in awe.

They are fixing the barrels to receivers, you can't change barrels anymore! They MISSED a small detail that screws walk out from the receiver, so they designed, tested, marketed and started to sell barrel swappable rifle design only to find out it won't work. How this can be even possible is beyond my understanding. Honestly... how it could be? They killed whole 557 line and 527 line for a CZ 600 design which does not even work and they had to sell it first to end users to find out. And the solution is - "send it back, we are going to lock tight the screws". In FAQ they state "Will you be replacing any parts? - No". They won't even make a fixed receivers, just weld the screws....

In awe, I'm telling you, in fcking awe.
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They may have caught the Colt USA virus.
 
Remember in the mid-1980's when Ruger triumphantly announced the .308 Win. version of the Mini-14?...the original Mini-30. There was an entire ad campaign devoted to it, including full page color ads in Rifle magazine...This went on for awhile, but the .308 Win. version of the Mini-14 never appeared...apparently the Ruger engineers couldn't get it to work. There was a real disconnect between the Ruger advertising dept. and their engineering dept. I am not sure who got fired, the ad guys or the engineers. I would assume it was the ad guys, but you never know.

A year or so later, Ruger released a version in the much milder Russian 7.62×39mm cartridge, and now when you look into the history of Ruger Arms, you won't see any mention of the originally advertised Mini-308.

I believe its called "pre-launch marketing." (https://peertopeermarketing.co/pre-launch-marketing/)...

..But...I think that ethically you are supposed to actually have a working product first....
 
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Ya I was a massive detracting voice to their new 600 line up. And the canceling of their previous lines that they canceled for it. I thought the canceling of their main lines as a short sighted decision that would bight them in the ass (I'm waiting almost 2 years on a part for one of those canceled rifles). And I thought, that the 600 line up looked cheap, gimmicky, and was a massive switch from old school styled rifles, to a cheap push to a lower price point rifle with styling and quality to match.

Sucks to see it actually worked out like I thought. A massive failure.
 
It will still be far easier and faster to change barrels, even if it has to go to a Gunsmith. Barrel changes are not that frequent for most people, and certainly not a deal breaker.
 
The Kurgan said:
It will still be far easier and faster to change barrels, even if it has to go to a Gunsmith. Barrel changes are not that frequent for most people, and certainly not a deal breaker.
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With what barrels? CZ won't sell them now and no third party will make them due to the bolt head locking directly into the barrel. Their proprietary barrels will lead to a lack of third party barrel manufacturers.
 
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