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Yup.. I agree. More displacement plz..
CZ 600 thoughts?
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Yup.. I agree. More displacement plz..
North Sylva had them posted, $899 for the Alpha and $1,399 for the Ergo. Didn't catch the others. The Alpha is damned attractive at that price point for a short .308. Don't know why I want one all of a sudden but with the built-in rail and a compact scope it should be a great little truck gun.
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We few, we proud, we incredibly vocal: the more displacement club
I’ve been craving a modern bolt, 60 degree lift etc. CRF in a new design is a cool bonus. Really would like to see a breakdown on how the ejector functions. 8x57 for weird factor and parts compatibility
Really liking the new euro rifles coming out with picatinny bases machined into the action. Some pics of the top of the lux receivers show a weird oval dovetail, but is listed as taking rem 700 bases, wonder what the deal with that is
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Those are just decorative plugs. The Lux is the only model without integrated bases. It's drilled and tapped to accept Rem 700 bases.
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No doubt about it. The Alpha looks very good. Medium contour short barrel, lightweight, easy switch barrel, more corrosion resistant finishes, and the stock is certainly no worse than what Tikka offers (based on stocks I've seen from 527 and 557 models). It will sell well! The Alpha in a standard walnut stock with those excellent sights would be about perfect for me.
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Here's an excellent overview of all models. Pretty impressive. I want the Trail model in 7.62x39
https://www.all4shooters.com/en/hunting/rifles/world-premiere-cz-600-bolt-action-rifle-first-impressions-plus-video/
Agreed. I will be waiting for the Trail in 7.62x39. I hope someone imports them.
85 has a blade ejector does it not?
This is some totally new thing. I don’t understand what the the spring holding the plunger in is contacting on the receiver to vary force of ejection depending on speed of bolt operation.
A “ blade ejector” of some kind on the bottom of the bolt? Doesn’t look like the bolt has an ejector slot. Maybe integrated into the bolt head and bolt stop somehow?
I am really into this, couldn’t get excited about the 557 at all but love the earlier series of basically all varieties
This is some totally new thing. I don’t understand what the the spring holding the plunger in is contacting on the receiver to vary force of ejection depending on speed of bolt operation.
A “ blade ejector” of some kind on the bottom of the bolt? Doesn’t look like the bolt has an ejector slot. Maybe integrated into the bolt head and bolt stop somehow?
I am really into this, couldn’t get excited about the 557 at all but love the earlier series of basically all varieties
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I think they are super cool, especially the Trail.
Why do people keep parroting “alloy” like it has a meaning? Literally every metal we use is an alloy of some sort. Every rifle barrel and receiver has been made of “alloy” since the beginning of time. CZ is making receivers from an Aluminum Alloy. Saying it’s made of alloy is no different than saying its made of metal, which is an equally useless statement.
Why do people keep parroting “alloy” like it has a meaning? Literally every metal we use is an alloy of some sort. Every rifle barrel and receiver has been made of “alloy” since the beginning of time. CZ is making receivers from an Aluminum Alloy. Saying it’s made of alloy is no different than saying its made of metal, which is an equally useless statement.
Ya I think they look disappointing. Like what now distinguishes these rifles from any other cheap hunting rifle? The entire reason I liked CZ rifles was the Blued finish, old school build quality, and metal magazines. Now it's plastic magazines, and some mat black/grey finish. Like why should I now buy this over a model 70. Cheaping out to make a bit more money and they've lost me on this series, I'll wait to see if they change , or for the next line. But most likely I'll stick to the old lines.
Now I do think the Trail is cool. But I honestly don't like what they are doing to their lineup. If I had was getting into guns around the time these came out I for sure wouldn't be interested in any of them outside the trail version.
Now I do think the Trail is cool. But I honestly don't like what they are doing to their lineup. If I had was getting into guns around the time these came out I for sure wouldn't be interested in any of them outside the trail version.
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I would say the most distinguishing feature of these is the ease and promised repeatability of barrel changes, and lightweight receivers. There aren’t any rifles anywhere near this price range that have such a readily accessible barrel change mechanic. To change the barrel effectively, you need to invest about $3 in tools that can be bought at any hardware store. I think that’s pretty awesome. And if the whole rifle is only $1000, then barrels should be made available for less than $400. We shall see if CZ follows through with that. It would be very easy for prefits to be prepared, provided CZ makes barrel extensions readily available.
I can’t think of any other 60 degree throw CRF actions with barrel swap and top load detachable magazines…
Nitride treatment is apparently very effective weatherproofing.
It’s a rebrand and definitely offering some stuff to cater to the European crowd (swap barrel, ergo stock styling, sights set back for suppressors, threading etc.)
Some cool stuff that it is on trend and not available in most NA rifles like the 8x57, picatinny bases machined into the action ( new SAKO and Haenel have this), promise of a decocking safety in the future.
Swap barrel in all models without a proprietary wrench is a big deal provided it works. Under 1k is crazy. I don’t really care about this but it will be a big selling point for euros. The chamber having spaces for the lugs might make non OEM barrels in weird calibers expensive.
Nitride treatment is apparently very effective weatherproofing.
It’s a rebrand and definitely offering some stuff to cater to the European crowd (swap barrel, ergo stock styling, sights set back for suppressors, threading etc.)
Some cool stuff that it is on trend and not available in most NA rifles like the 8x57, picatinny bases machined into the action ( new SAKO and Haenel have this), promise of a decocking safety in the future.
Swap barrel in all models without a proprietary wrench is a big deal provided it works. Under 1k is crazy. I don’t really care about this but it will be a big selling point for euros. The chamber having spaces for the lugs might make non OEM barrels in weird calibers expensive.
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Ah they've taken a page from their rimfire playbook. I hadn't seen in any of the material out, that they had barrel swapping. Even with that feature the entire reason I was even interested in their rifles isn't present. If they were blued and had metal magazines I'd be more into them. But I think the finish looks cheap, and they cheeped out on the magazines. And the Alpha lines stock is horrendously cheap looking. But hey I guess CZ has to get with the times, everyone's doing it.
Edit: Just saw, that the Trail is only in .223 and 7.62x39. So it's the replacement to the 527 line. I'm not even interested in this thing if that's the case. I have zero use for a .223, and don't need a 7.62x39 that requires a scope so the one rifle in the line I might have enjoyed is now off my list.
You could make the Argument that these Rifles are specifically designed for the European market, with little after thought to North America. And they won't be under $1000. The only one even close to that is the Alpha, and if I take the American SRP and convert it to CAD it's all ready almost $1000. With the way things are going I can't see a single one of these for under $1000. Which is sad considering they clearly are designed to be a cheaper quality of manufacturing. More money for less quality goods, and I'm referring to that cheap looking finish, and these stupid plastic magazines. Like they spent all this money on the Barrel swap stuff, when all I wanted was a nice finish, some good looking walnut and metal magazines.
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There are several 557 and 527 models still in dealer inventory that checks your boxes, especially that beautiful 557 Lux at Prophet. I think the new models are exciting but they also compliment past models, not necessarily replace.
I for one want a more corrosion resistant synthetic stocked rifle for wet weather, and stainless does not interest me. Changing barrels with ease is an added bonus.
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Brutus
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$1349 for a rifle with 2 MOA guarantee at 100 yards with match ammo.
I don't believe myself this is a money wise investment.
Wanna see reports on its durability especially pistol grip and locking feature of that folding stock.
I have two CZ Springfield M6 copies.
One of them super tight hinge point, the other not so much. When it 'wiggles' there is some shift of bullet impact.
I suspect with mass manufacturing, a weak or loose hinge point can poison CZ 600 marketing future.
I don't believe myself this is a money wise investment.
Wanna see reports on its durability especially pistol grip and locking feature of that folding stock.
I have two CZ Springfield M6 copies.
One of them super tight hinge point, the other not so much. When it 'wiggles' there is some shift of bullet impact.
I suspect with mass manufacturing, a weak or loose hinge point can poison CZ 600 marketing future.
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I would bet the 2MOA guarantee is due to use of 556/x39 milspec fodder. The other models are guanteeing sub-MOA with quality match-grade ammo.
