And yet it is exactly that very same Collapsing Buttstock that "makes" the "Trail" the "Trail". Therre is zero wobble when shouldered, and only minimal play when out of the shoulder.
CZ 600 Trail - Interesting Details!
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And yet it is exactly that very same Collapsing Buttstock that "makes" the "Trail" the "Trail". Therre is zero wobble when shouldered, and only minimal play when out of the shoulder.
That's good to hear that it's a solid collapsible system, that's not always the case!
Don't get me wrong, I do realize the difference between the Alpha and the Trail.....
If the price was similar it would be a no brainier as I like compact rifles. My comment was more that it's not a surplus ammo concern regarding the 2moa guarantee.At this point I'd have to get rid of a few guns first anyways but in the mean while I'm happy to hear more reports positive and negative from CGN'ers....
I just tore the CZ 600 Trail down into its component parts, as is my normal modus operandi whenever I acquire a new firearm. Of interest is the fact that the owner's manual provides no torque specs for the Chassis Mounting Bolts, as it is not recommended, nor are instructions provided for disassembling the rifle any futher than removal of the Bolt from the Receiver! I went with 60 lbs and left it at that. Disassembly was easy enough, with the Barrelled Action popping right out of the Polymer Chassis with the removal of the 2 Mounting Bolts. Following that, it was a simple matter to loosen the 3 Bolts securing the Handguard to the Barrel by pressure-fit, and the Handguard slid off easily enough. This just left the 2 bolts with the "Danger Will Robinson!!!" Red-lacquer on them that secure the Barrel into the Action by pressure-fit.
Having heard that these Barrel Bolts were "epoxied" or otherwise permanently secured with Red Locktite during the "Safety Recall", I was not expecting much in the way of movement with out the applcation of some heat. Imagine my surprise then, when the two Bolts each turned esily enough, loosening just as designed so that the Bolt could be opened allowing the unlocked Barrel to slide out of the front of the Action. Easy-Peasey, just as it was designed for quick barrel/calibre changes! Now, I just need to figure out who is best positioned to fabricate a .300 Blk Barrel for my little Trail carbine so that I can launch 150 gr .30 cal pills down-range for wilderness safety...
Everything goes back together in reverse order with indexing pins for the correct alignment of the Barrel to the Receiver, the Handguard to the Receiver, and the Receiver to the Polymer Chassis/Buttstock. Even in the complete absence of written instructions or pictograms, disassembly of the CZ 600 Trail is a simple and intuitive matter that I was able to figure out in a couple of minutes of pre-torguing contemplation. You can strip the Bolt itself, allowing the easy swap of Bolt-Heads for different calibre conversions if desired/required. Which all begs the question as to whether or not the Trail is still meant to be a switch-Barrel arrangement?? On the one hand, there was the "Safety Recall" by CZ USA that apparently cemented all CZ USA Barrels permanently into their corresponding Trail Receivers so that there can be no Barrel swapping leading to the potential for catastrophic error during reassembly (or some such).. On the other hand, did the OG CZ in the Czech Republic even conduct the same liability-driven "Safety Recall" of European Trail tifles as was done State-side? I don't know the answer to that question. What I do know is that the CZ 600 Trail Rifles currently being sold by everyone other than IRG, come from the Czech Republic with M15-1 Muzzle Threads and hand-tightened Barrel-Retention Bolts. This makes the Trail a prime candidate for conversion to .300 Blk, even if CZ won't produce the .300 Blk Barrels themselves for liability reasons.
- Dlask? Are you there??? What am I looking at $$-wise for a .300 Blk CZ 600 Barrel? I just gots to know...
Having heard that these Barrel Bolts were "epoxied" or otherwise permanently secured with Red Locktite during the "Safety Recall", I was not expecting much in the way of movement with out the applcation of some heat. Imagine my surprise then, when the two Bolts each turned esily enough, loosening just as designed so that the Bolt could be opened allowing the unlocked Barrel to slide out of the front of the Action. Easy-Peasey, just as it was designed for quick barrel/calibre changes! Now, I just need to figure out who is best positioned to fabricate a .300 Blk Barrel for my little Trail carbine so that I can launch 150 gr .30 cal pills down-range for wilderness safety...
Everything goes back together in reverse order with indexing pins for the correct alignment of the Barrel to the Receiver, the Handguard to the Receiver, and the Receiver to the Polymer Chassis/Buttstock. Even in the complete absence of written instructions or pictograms, disassembly of the CZ 600 Trail is a simple and intuitive matter that I was able to figure out in a couple of minutes of pre-torguing contemplation. You can strip the Bolt itself, allowing the easy swap of Bolt-Heads for different calibre conversions if desired/required. Which all begs the question as to whether or not the Trail is still meant to be a switch-Barrel arrangement?? On the one hand, there was the "Safety Recall" by CZ USA that apparently cemented all CZ USA Barrels permanently into their corresponding Trail Receivers so that there can be no Barrel swapping leading to the potential for catastrophic error during reassembly (or some such).. On the other hand, did the OG CZ in the Czech Republic even conduct the same liability-driven "Safety Recall" of European Trail tifles as was done State-side? I don't know the answer to that question. What I do know is that the CZ 600 Trail Rifles currently being sold by everyone other than IRG, come from the Czech Republic with M15-1 Muzzle Threads and hand-tightened Barrel-Retention Bolts. This makes the Trail a prime candidate for conversion to .300 Blk, even if CZ won't produce the .300 Blk Barrels themselves for liability reasons.
- Dlask? Are you there??? What am I looking at $$-wise for a .300 Blk CZ 600 Barrel? I just gots to know...
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That might just be the push people needed to buy these things en masse. How much heat and for how long?
Not that I could see - just a sea of plastic!
That's the whole thing - zero heat required - the screws just backed out, easy peasey! I'm thinking that the anti-Quiick-Change-Barrel "Safety Recall" was a CZ USA thing, and not a CZ Czech Republic recall. This Czech-manufactured rifle is exactly as originally advertised by CZ....
OAL with the stock collapsed is 27 1/4", so you could get away with an inch shorter barrel. The factory Barrel is 16.5" long, meaning you could get away with a 15.5" after-market tube in Canada.
I just tore the CZ 600 Trail down into its component parts, as is my normal modus operandi whenever I acquire a new firearm. Of interest is the fact that the owner's manual provides no torque specs for the Chassis Mounting Bolts, as it is not recommended, nor are instructions provided for disassembling the rifle any futher than removal of the Bolt from the Receiver! I went with 60 lbs and left it at that. Disassembly was easy enough, with the Barrelled Action popping right out of the Polymer Chassis with the removal of the 2 Mounting Bolts. Following that, it was a simple matter to loosen the 3 Bolts securing the Handguard to the Barrel by pressure-fit, and the Handguard slid off easily enough. This just left the 2 bolts with the "Danger Will Robinson!!!" Red-lacquer on them that secure the Barrel into the Action by pressure-fit.
Having heard that these Barrel Bolts were "epoxied" or otherwise permanently secured with Red Locktite during the "Safety Recall", I was not expecting much in the way of movement with out the applcation of some heat. Imagine my surprise then, when the two Bolts each turned esily enough, loosening just as designed so that the Bolt could be opened allowing the unlocked Barrel to slide out of the front of the Action. Easy-Peasey, just as it was designed for quick barrel/calibre changes! Now, I just need to figure out who is best positioned to fabricate a .300 Blk Barrel for my little Trail carbine so that I can launch 150 gr .30 cal pills down-range for wilderness safety...
Everything goes back together in reverse order with indexing pins for the correct alignment of the Barrel to the Receiver, the Handguard to the Receiver, and the Receiver to the Polymer Chassis/Buttstock. Even in the complete absence of written instructions or pictograms, disassembly of the CZ 600 Trail is a simple and intuitive matter that I was able to figure out in a couple of minutes of pre-torguing contemplation. You can strip the Bolt itself, allowing the easy swap of Bolt-Heads for different calibre conversions if desired/required. Which all begs the question as to whether or not the Trail is still meant to be a switch-Barrel arrangement?? On the one hand, there was the "Safety Recall" by CZ USA that apparently cemented all CZ USA Barrels permanently into their corresponding Trail Receivers so that there can be no Barrel swapping leading to the potential for catastrophic error during reassembly (or some such).. On the other hand, did the OG CZ in the Czech Republic even conduct the same liability-driven "Safety Recall" of European Trail tifles as was done State-side? I don't know the answer to that question. What I do know is that the CZ 600 Trail Rifles currently being sold by everyone other than IRG, come from the Czech Republic with M15-1 Muzzle Threads and hand-tightened Barrel-Retention Bolts. This makes the Trail a prime canadidate for conversion to .300 Blk, even if CZ won't produce the .300 Blk Barrels themselves for liability reasons.
- Dlask? Are you there??? What am I looking at $$-wise for a .300 Blk CZ 600 Barrel? I just gots to know...
Thanks for the write up Mark, there is not a ton of info on the web yet!
The calibre conversion aspect of the 600 series was a great feature and sounds like it still is once either CZ or the aftermarket starts making the necessary parts.
Is the collet around the barrel with the horizontal slot firmly attached to the barrel and the slot is the indexing part for the hand guard?
Yeah, but if you go with .300 Blk Supersonic, you just need a straight-up Barrel-swap. The Bolt-head remains the same. Easy-Peasey.....
Nope - that Collet is just a piece of Polymer for the Handguard Tensioning Screws to bear down on, spreading the pressure evenly over the Barrel/Chamber Root. The Collet itself is loose and removable.
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The friction-only fit of the hand guard to the barrel (via a polymer spacer, at that) is interesting. I ran into trouble rigging up a Savage with custom barrel nut designed to allow a clamp-on hand guard. The recoil causes the hand guard to slide forward since it's held only with friction. But that's a 5-lb 358 Winchester...she kicks! No plastic spacer, though. AR barrel nuts usually have one of the clamping bolts engaging a slot on the nut for additional security.
I think heavier recoiling rounds could possibly cause slippage at that clamp to plastic to barrel interface on the CZ Trail. Just something to look out for if someone builds a 300 BLK or 300 HAMR.
I think heavier recoiling rounds could possibly cause slippage at that clamp to plastic to barrel interface on the CZ Trail. Just something to look out for if someone builds a 300 BLK or 300 HAMR.
As I said earlier, the Handguard is indexed to the reciever by an Indexing Pin.
