CZ 75 B Omega?
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I asked this question awhile back, and the answer i got was, get the Shadow instead.
get two
i dunno much about the CZ, been a Glock guy mostly and im getting sick of them, may switch myself soon.
What he said x2.
CZ makes teh 85Combat and the 75B on the new frame. Lts of old stcok floating around yet. Bug the importer to bring in the newer versions with the SP-01 style beavertail.
Take Care
Bob
I have owned a CZ75 B with a regular trigger, a CZ75 B Omega and now own a CZ Shadow.
The CZ75 B was good. I am not a seasoned vet when it comes to pistols but I did like the gun. It fit my smaller hands well. Trigger was fine. In fact in hind sight it was really good but I didn't know how good until later. I sold it and bought a Beretta just for something different.
The CZ75 B Omega was a different story. I bought it thinking it was a better. Wrong.
I was shooting one day with a buddy who owns a M&P 9mm and I wasn't doing that well. I just thought my lack of success was me being somewhat green, which it probably was to some extent. My buddy and I switched guns and as soon as I shot his M&P I realized what was most likely the problem with my shooting and so did my buddy. We both looked at each other and said that trigger on the CZ is crap ! In fact, I failed to realize up until than just how important the trigger is when pistol shooting. I sold that CZ faster than lightning and sold it for real cheap too.
I did some research on here and bought a CZ 75 Shadow. I shot it and found I was a better pistol shooter than I thought. It was sooo much better stock than most 9mm's I have shot. I then replaced a couple of springs in it and now that gun is a joy to shoot and both my pistol buddies ( one owns the M&P and the other has a Norinco 1911 in 9mm) are considering buying one as they shoot better too with it.
Now since buying the Shadow I have shot a Glock and a Beretta 92FS and Beretta PX Storm. I still like the Beretta's despite them being a little wide at the grip for my hands. The Glock...well I will probably be torn to shreds for saying so, but I found it to be horrible.
I guess it took a me a long time to say so but I would stay clear of the Omega. My advice is to look for a ( maybe a gently used?) CZ 75B or a Shadow.
The CZ75 B was good. I am not a seasoned vet when it comes to pistols but I did like the gun. It fit my smaller hands well. Trigger was fine. In fact in hind sight it was really good but I didn't know how good until later. I sold it and bought a Beretta just for something different.
The CZ75 B Omega was a different story. I bought it thinking it was a better. Wrong.
I was shooting one day with a buddy who owns a M&P 9mm and I wasn't doing that well. I just thought my lack of success was me being somewhat green, which it probably was to some extent. My buddy and I switched guns and as soon as I shot his M&P I realized what was most likely the problem with my shooting and so did my buddy. We both looked at each other and said that trigger on the CZ is crap ! In fact, I failed to realize up until than just how important the trigger is when pistol shooting. I sold that CZ faster than lightning and sold it for real cheap too.
I did some research on here and bought a CZ 75 Shadow. I shot it and found I was a better pistol shooter than I thought. It was sooo much better stock than most 9mm's I have shot. I then replaced a couple of springs in it and now that gun is a joy to shoot and both my pistol buddies ( one owns the M&P and the other has a Norinco 1911 in 9mm) are considering buying one as they shoot better too with it.
Now since buying the Shadow I have shot a Glock and a Beretta 92FS and Beretta PX Storm. I still like the Beretta's despite them being a little wide at the grip for my hands. The Glock...well I will probably be torn to shreds for saying so, but I found it to be horrible.
I guess it took a me a long time to say so but I would stay clear of the Omega. My advice is to look for a ( maybe a gently used?) CZ 75B or a Shadow.
I would not sweat the beavertail issue. I've got both the Shadow and an old pre-b 75. When I lay them side by side I can see the difference. When I go from shooting one to the other it simply is such a small difference that I can't feel a thing. Wait, that's not true. The regular "skinny end" 75 balances in the hand a little nicer. But here again it's one of those things you only notice when you pick the guns up one after the other
I really do like the Shadow but if I had to have only one gun for shooting both IPSC and IDPA I would not hesitate at all to buy an 85Combat for the better non FP block trigger and to meet the IDPA weight issue. It would be a very nice dual purpose gun.
Yes the greater front weight of the Shadow will technically make it rise less during recoil. But us regular folks simply are not good enough that we'll actually benifit from this. Meanwhile I can quickly double tap my plain 75 just fine and tend to get mostly -0's when I do.
Only if you're already at the top of your group would the Shadow perhaps give you that last little bit to make the difference and put you a spot or two higher on the podium. Or perhaps by that time your familiarity with whatever gun you're using will be easily enough to carry through for the win. With shooting skills it truly is a case of knowing the tool you use more than the features it has. So I wouldn't sweat the small stuff. Yes, if you want to go with a CZ it is worth getting a gun without the FPB. It does sweeten up the trigger. But from there it's about the sort of drills you do and how much ammo you put downrange far more than it is about gun weight or beavertail shapes.
I really do like the Shadow but if I had to have only one gun for shooting both IPSC and IDPA I would not hesitate at all to buy an 85Combat for the better non FP block trigger and to meet the IDPA weight issue. It would be a very nice dual purpose gun.
Yes the greater front weight of the Shadow will technically make it rise less during recoil. But us regular folks simply are not good enough that we'll actually benifit from this. Meanwhile I can quickly double tap my plain 75 just fine and tend to get mostly -0's when I do.
Only if you're already at the top of your group would the Shadow perhaps give you that last little bit to make the difference and put you a spot or two higher on the podium. Or perhaps by that time your familiarity with whatever gun you're using will be easily enough to carry through for the win. With shooting skills it truly is a case of knowing the tool you use more than the features it has. So I wouldn't sweat the small stuff. Yes, if you want to go with a CZ it is worth getting a gun without the FPB. It does sweeten up the trigger. But from there it's about the sort of drills you do and how much ammo you put downrange far more than it is about gun weight or beavertail shapes.
Very good post. I wish more would read and heed. My wallet wishes I would listen to my head instead of my ego as well.
Take Care
Bob
Bob, trust me. I'm also far from immune to Shiney Object Syndrome, otherwise known as SOS .
But I've simply had my nose rubbed in the reality in too many hobbys and sports too many times over to truly believe that we can buy our ability by buying the gun, motorcycle, tennis racket or whatever else the winners use.
The reality is that if we have it in us to be on the winner's podium we'll get there as long as the tools we use are simply adequite and reliable.
. But I've simply had my nose rubbed in the reality in too many hobbys and sports too many times over to truly believe that we can buy our ability by buying the gun, motorcycle, tennis racket or whatever else the winners use.
The reality is that if we have it in us to be on the winner's podium we'll get there as long as the tools we use are simply adequite and reliable.
Bob, trust me. I'm also far from immune to Shiney Object Syndrome, otherwise known as SOS
But I've simply had my nose rubbed in the reality in too many hobbys and sports too many times over to truly believe that we can buy our ability by buying the gun, motorcycle, tennis racket or whatever else the winners use.
The reality is that if we have it in us to be on the winner's podium we'll get there as long as the tools we use are simply adequite and reliable.
Ha lol, i got the sos problem really bad.
Bob, trust me. I'm also far from immune to Shiney Object Syndrome, otherwise known as SOS
But I've simply had my nose rubbed in the reality in too many hobbys and sports too many times over to truly believe that we can buy our ability by buying the gun, motorcycle, tennis racket or whatever else the winners use.
The reality is that if we have it in us to be on the winner's podium we'll get there as long as the tools we use are simply adequite and reliable.
One only has to look at the nuimber of Glocks, if you see yourself as a couch commando or CZ Shjadows that are sold to unsuspecting shooters believing, if only they could shoot a zillion rounds a year they to could be another Bob Vogel. They forget of course Bob Vogel will tell you he has never shot more than 20K rounds per year practicing in his life. Genes do play apart in all of this.
Take Care
Bob
