If I rarely had to break the rifle down to clean it, I would fully agree with you. Since many (most?) people will be shooting corrosive through these though, having to remove those screws every time is going to be a real pain. Especially if you are out in the field and forgot a screw driver. I have some concerns with the threads stripping over time as well. Not necessarily a deal breaker, but I would much much prefer tool less take down.
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If I rarely had to break the rifle down to clean it, I would fully agree with you. Since many (most?) people will be shooting corrosive through these though, having to remove those screws every time is going to be a real pain. Especially if you are out in the field and forgot a screw driver. I have some concerns with the threads stripping over time as well. Not necessarily a deal breaker, but I would much much prefer tool less take down.
Yes I have, it worked perfectly
Grumpy Wolverine
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Doesn't sit any farther forward than an optic mounted AR. The eye relief is perfect on this one and depending on the mount there will be some wiggle room.
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What I did the other day was simply hose the action out with some action cleaner/degreaser etc, then reoil it with spray oil after I cleaned the barrel. The piston can come off without removing the top cover so that part is still easy to get to. I honestly don't see the need to have to tear it down all the time completely.
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Upper and lower guards will work for sure. I can't say 100% on the mag releases etc, but they look the same as the old ones to me so they should work in there. The biggest difference other than the top cover is the changes in the inside of the receiver for there is no room nor provision for go fast goodies to find a home anymore.
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I need one!!
Too bad you don't want to start the pre order!!
I don't want to miss it
Too bad you don't want to start the pre order!!
I don't want to miss it
rally guy
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I am afraid I greatly differ on this matter, did you ever get one rusting on you? Never happened to me but I clean them religiously! But my father sworn to me he clean his sks one time and it was rusted shut and I passed countless hours cleaning it and all the chrome parts inside never came back to how they were!
So 4 bolt on the rail, it's a pain but I am not a range wh@re and 4-10 a year is probably all action it would see. Its still to bad that a 2 pin system couldn't be designe to retain zero but I surly prefer to have 4 screws and have a repeatable system then a 2 pin so so system.
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The hunter makes my peepee go shwing. The tactical not so much. If these haven't been submitted to the RCMP yet for inspection im guessing these rifles are at least close to two years out. By then the Liberals will be possibly in Power. Heck of a big risk to be taking by Wolverine.
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I'm going to have to wait and see on this. Needing tools for dissasembley could be a deal breaker for me
rally guy
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Think of it this way, one allan key in a fab defence pistol grip a d your all set, it rattles? Well add a lense cleaner and voila!
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Oh me likes, this is nice.
Geoff B
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Will mags from a CZ 858 fit these new guns?
st1264
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Yes, along with all the other 858/VZ58 accessories (unless told otherwise).
Looks pretty sweet, and it's fantastic that you guys are doing this, but I don't know if I'll buy one personally.
Requiring tools for disassembly is a huge drawback for me.
Also, is there any way we might be able to get the back of the reciever/rail machined on a bit more of a slant? As others have stated, it would look way more aesthetically pleasing.
I'd be more than willing to pay a bit more for said machining and some kind of two pin disassembly system.
Requiring tools for disassembly is a huge drawback for me.
Also, is there any way we might be able to get the back of the reciever/rail machined on a bit more of a slant? As others have stated, it would look way more aesthetically pleasing.
I'd be more than willing to pay a bit more for said machining and some kind of two pin disassembly system.
Rick911
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Yes, the only negative point i see with this firearm are the screws to take off the cover.
How many screw/unscrew cycle can they take before begining to strip ? When they do strip, will they strip the receivers threading too? When the receiver threading is stripped what can be done ? How much ?
If that is the cost of holding zero, i'm not sure its worth it.
Pins would have been so much better.
How many screw/unscrew cycle can they take before begining to strip ? When they do strip, will they strip the receivers threading too? When the receiver threading is stripped what can be done ? How much ?
If that is the cost of holding zero, i'm not sure its worth it.
Pins would have been so much better.
Vz 58 receiver are made of hardened steel if I'm not mistaken so I wouldn't worry about it getting striped threads. At worst you might need need screws and I'm sure they will have plenty of spares in case that happens.
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