CZ Shadow 2 Questions

Can I sneak in and ask a question about Lok grips? There is no LOK dealer close enough to visit and I find their online grip descriptions hard to understand and they are way too pricey to order and miss. So what I want is the thinnest and most pliable (softest) grip model that they make. What "Model" name of LOK grip would fit that description? I do not want the palm swell nor the aggressive grips but more the feel of rubber type grips I have felt on the earlier Shadow models. Any suggestions ...........thanks

I am dubious that you will find satisfaction with LOK, with those requirements. The material they use is very hard, almost like aluminum. No give at all to it.

I might recommend the Scales grips. If you get the ones that are smooth aluminum (rather than the one with pointed dots all around the grip), the hand can somewhat fill in the holes... I'm not sure if you would like this more or less though.
 
what eeman tech mainspring lb you using? what primers do you load with?
That one is a 10lb that has some coils cut off. It behaves like a 12lb spring. My benchmark gun has 11lb equating to a 6lb DA pull, and a 13lb is ~7lb DA pull. This cut one is 6.5lbs DA.

I use CCI primers for practice, Federal for matches.

(I shoot original Shadows, not a Shadow 2)
 
Gonna have to pull the spring Dmitri sent me and measure it in my spring tester and see what it comes out at.
 
Skip the magwell unless you have a need for fast reloads on the move, like IPSC Standard division. Your magazine basepads may not fit the magwell. Turns the whole thing into costing a few hundred dollars.

You’ll usually match the recoil spring to the power of your ammo. The slide will loosen a bit as it breaks in too. I’m using a 10 pound recoil spring, but I make softer shooting ammo compared to factory.

Get someone to show you how to shoot, and make use of that great gun. Put your money towards ammo at this point. The gun doesn’t need anything, except oil and love. :cheers:

Excellent suggestion. The Shadow 2 is a fine firearm all on its own without any changes, I would second the suggestion of putting money towards ammo first, shoot it a whole bunch to see what it can do, and then decide if you still want to mod it.

Unless of course you are a tinkerer, and just love to mod things for the cool factor, then of course, make as many changes as you like :)
 
That page is for the spring kit. I think they linked the wrong video on their website - this is the right video: ht ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmy73Kkd0jU

Thanks so much Juliette, I figured time to make some decisions so I ordered those springs.
They only offered the UPS option, so be it. I'll have them for sure before I have my shadow.
So much info for review but if I can get that trigger to 2.5lb pull it will be less than I thought imaginable.

Thanks so much and for that video. Are you on youtube? There is a woman there who has done something similar to her shadow. CS FanFrrl i think.



So I don't need to change the firing pin at all with this set up correct? I've read other setups where I would have to.
 
Excellent suggestion. The Shadow 2 is a fine firearm all on its own without any changes, I would second the suggestion of putting money towards ammo first, shoot it a whole bunch to see what it can do, and then decide if you still want to mod it.

Unless of course you are a tinkerer, and just love to mod things for the cool factor, then of course, make as many changes as you like :)

It's just something that whatever I buy I have to make it my own. Kind of create it's own wow factor.
When I was younger I had a manual honda civic with the coolest shift lever. LOL. Small things for small minds.
Years later it's my Ford F150 Build that I bought used and pretty much finished. So of course the "make it your own" gets more and more expensive.

Thanks for your suggestions.
 
Thanks so much Juliette, I figured time to make some decisions so I ordered those springs.
....but if I can get that trigger to 2.5lb pull it will be less than I thought imaginable.
The video was talking kilograms, which works out to a 5.6lb DA pull.
SA measured at 2lbs.

The guns vary, so yours may not be exactly the same.
 
The video was talking kilograms, which works out to a 5.6lb DA pull.
SA measured at 2lbs.

The guns vary, so yours may not be exactly the same.

Ya I think that video may have been a slight exageration but who knows. I saw another video that mentioned needing an "extended firing pin". The video and kit does not come with it so I'll assume it won't need it. Fingers crossed.
 
Ya I think that video may have been a slight exageration but who knows. I saw another video that mentioned needing an "extended firing pin". The video and kit does not come with it so I'll assume it won't need it. Fingers crossed.
I wouldn’t say it’s an exaggeration. It measured that way with that gun, but all guns will vary a little bit with different levels of friction between all the moving parts. That’s all. :)

Slavex doesn’t use the extended firing pin, but a lot of people who mod their guns like this also reload. An extended firing pin might help those of us who have an unreliable primer seating station - sometimes. Definitely not all the time. I’m curious how many people say they need an extended firing pin, either reload, or didn’t change the firing pin spring for a really light one? I measured the Shadow factory firing pin spring with a Rami sourced in Canada, as well as the Eemann one. The Eemann was 10% lighter than the Rami, so Eemann is in my guns.
 
Thanks so much Juliette, I figured time to make some decisions so I ordered those springs.
They only offered the UPS option, so be it. I'll have them for sure before I have my shadow.
So much info for review but if I can get that trigger to 2.5lb pull it will be less than I thought imaginable.

Thanks so much and for that video. Are you on youtube? There is a woman there who has done something similar to her shadow. CS FanFrrl i think.



So I don't need to change the firing pin at all with this set up correct? I've read other setups where I would have to.

I think they removed the postal option because people were complaining it's slow and many countries' postal systems were not allowing incoming parcels from abroad during COVID.

As for extended firing pin, I didn't have to use one as the firing pin spring that came with the package was very soft. I shoot factory FMJ ammo (mainly Blazer Brass and Federal Syntech) and it has been 100%.
 
I think they removed the postal option because people were complaining it's slow and many countries' postal systems were not allowing incoming parcels from abroad during COVID.

As for extended firing pin, I didn't have to use one as the firing pin spring that came with the package was very soft. I shoot factory FMJ ammo (mainly Blazer Brass and Federal Syntech) and it has been 100%.

I never know with UPS here. Sometimes they charge customs and tax. We’ll see.

Can you tell me did you notice an immediate change in the slide and how stiff it was?

Thanks,
 
I never know with UPS here. Sometimes they charge customs and tax. We’ll see.

Can you tell me did you notice an immediate change in the slide and how stiff it was?

Thanks,
The recoil spring that came with the kit is only 9lbs. The stock one (for my SP-01 Shadow) is 15 to 16 lbs. I went to swap the springs to get a back to back feel and I'd say there is a discernible (but not quantifiable) difference when I am racking the slide.

But even with stock spring, my Shadow is no where as stiff as my SFP9. I own three pistols and the SFP9 is by far the stiffest.
 
I think they removed the postal option because people were complaining it's slow and many countries' postal systems were not allowing incoming parcels from abroad during COVID.

As for extended firing pin, I didn't have to use one as the firing pin spring that came with the package was very soft. I shoot factory FMJ ammo (mainly Blazer Brass and Federal Syntech) and it has been 100%.

Hello again Juliette. (and anyone who knows)
What grain of Ammo would you recommend for this set up on your Shadow 2.
Are there any online stores you would recommend and can we get Wolf Ammo in Canada? I heard it was a cheap reliable ammo. (This may be a new thread)
 
I think they removed the postal option because people were complaining it's slow and many countries' postal systems were not allowing incoming parcels from abroad during COVID.

OK so I guess this is an example of live and learn. I ordered that spring kit, as well as the blue magazine release, blue short grips, and black Magwell. I ended up in two orders and I emailed them and asked for them to combine them and save some shipping costs. Well they charged me 40.00 lbs shipping ($62.00 CAD) and UPS is charging $33.80 for Customs charges. OUCH. So a total of $360.00 CAD for those items. Just seems I should have looked more close to home but at least I'll have it all when the gun comes.

I have asked them to refund one shipping cost. We'll see.
 
damn...40lbs shipping? what you order?
OK so I guess this is an example of live and learn. I ordered that spring kit, as well as the blue magazine release, blue short grips, and black Magwell. I ended up in two orders and I emailed them and asked for them to combine them and save some shipping costs. Well they charged me 40.00 lbs shipping ($62.00 CAD) and UPS is charging $33.80 for Customs charges. OUCH. So a total of $360.00 CAD for those items. Just seems I should have looked more close to home but at least I'll have it all when the gun comes.

I have asked them to refund one shipping cost. We'll see.
 
damn...40lbs shipping? what you order?

I ordered that spring kit, as well as the blue magazine release, blue short grips, and black Magwell. And it gets even worse. The bank charged a 1.5736 exchange which is correct, and then either the bank or Cesar charged an additional $111.00 foreign exchange fee. I'm trying to figure out what that is but of course you can't reach anyone at the bank these days. Delayed to to COVID. I'm so tired of the COVID excuse giving everyone a reason to give poor service.
 
I ordered that spring kit, as well as the blue magazine release, blue short grips, and black Magwell. And it gets even worse. The bank charged a 1.5736 exchange which is correct, and then either the bank or Cesar charged an additional $111.00 foreign exchange fee. I'm trying to figure out what that is but of course you can't reach anyone at the bank these days. Delayed to to COVID. I'm so tired of the COVID excuse giving everyone a reason to give poor service.

Hey KCin, out of curiosity, I put the items you bought in a cart. The sub-total before shipping comes out to 162 Euros, since you got charged double the shipping, you probably got charged double the handling and packing fee as well... so the total should come out to approximately 207 EUR (162 + 20 + 20 + 2.5+ 2.5) or 326 CAD using today's rate. This is assuming your Credit Card issuer charges 2.5% forex fee which is typical. You can play with the forex calculation here:

htt ps://www.mastercard.us/en-us/personal/get-support/convert-currency.html

Now when your package is imported, CBSA will assess taxes and duties (if applicable) on the subtotal before shipping - so that would be on 162 EUR or approx 250 CAD. If you were charged only CAD 33 or so, that means you only got dinged for the 13% Ontario HST, but no duty and no UPS brokerage fee.

So your total is approximately CAD 326 + 33 = 360 like you said. It looks like everything is as it should be EXCEPT for doubling the shipping. Did you place two separate orders?

Having the postal option removed sucks as I have never got charged taxes on any gun parts when I bought from Europe when they shipped postal (both IPSC Store and Cesar Shop). However, this is just pure luck as the expectation is that CBSA will assess at least 13% HST (for us Ontarians) if not duty depending on what it is that you bought and country of manufacturing.

I think you are already finding out that this is an expensive hobby, and the parts selections in Canada is not just not there. To get everything you bought from Europe, you probably have to buy from multiple Canadian vendors and they will each charge their shipping which adds up. Also, prices are high here as well - here is something close to what you bought from a west cost vendor - and you still need to add shipping and taxes on top (plus you still don't have the springs yet):

ht tps://dlaskarms.com/product/cz-shadow-2-magwell-grips-base-pad-combo/

So enjoy what you got and let's hope your transfer complete soon! Feel free to reach out on PM if you have any questions buying from abroad - as you can probably tell, I do it quite a bit : )


BTW, did you buy any base plate or mag extension that's compatible with the magwell? With the stock base plate, it will be hard to reload as you can't just use your palm to push the mag in as the mag well is now deeper. Worse, some stock base plate may not even work with the mag well depending on how much the lip protrude from the mag body.
 
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Hello again Juliette. (and anyone who knows)
What grain of Ammo would you recommend for this set up on your Shadow 2.
Are there any online stores you would recommend and can we get Wolf Ammo in Canada? I heard it was a cheap reliable ammo. (This may be a new thread)

Re: Ammo, I normally just shoot whatever is the cheapest - I do notice a difference in recoil impulse but not skilled enough to have it affect my shooting (as I am slowwww). I usually shoot 124gr Blazer Brass as they were the cheapest brass case ammo (I bought as cheap as $215 for 1000 before tax last year). I also shot 124gr Federal Syntech as I got a bunch from a trade. Recently, I also picked up some 115gr Federal Aluminum because of the price increase on Blazer Brass due to the panic buying here and in the US (another COVID thing)

You can get Blazer Brass from many vendors at $280 plus tax per 1000 now. For Federal Aluminum, there is still at least one vendor in GTA that sells 2000 for $400. PM me for info. You need to buy bulk to save on ammo (or get into reloading).

If you just want trigger time, do a lot of dry firing at home and/or get a conversion kit for your Shadow 2 so you can shoot cheap 22LR - that's another expense (some kits are as much as a new .22 pistol) but you may be able to justify it if you think you will shoot a large volume and want more trigger time specifically on the CZ. I have a Kadet kit for my SP-01, which I love and it's perfect when I bring new shooters out to the range before I move them to larger calibre.
 
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