Czech surplus prices...
- Thread starter juliet lima
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I would love to get my hand on a 41 PPSh
http://www.bvs.cz/armysurplus_arms_submachine_guns_sssr_ppsh_41.html
http://www.bvs.cz/armysurplus_arms_submachine_guns_sssr_ppsh_41.html
P0WERWAGON
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- Location
- burnaby BC كافر
please import this as a parts kit, please.....
Can-Am? you here?
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- Location
- Grande Prairie, Alberta
I guess its how you look at it, they have put a lot of time an effort into getting stuff to canada. But ya where should the line be drawn for profit
- Location
- Prince Albert, Saskatchewan
Before you all go hard on Marstar for the prices they charge remember to look at it from a Buisness point of view. When Marstar purchases these types of items, payment is always up front. Often I am told, importers of surplus ammunition do not see the product until 3 months after it is payed for in full. Then there is all the loop holes to jump thru and months of previous work that has gone into getting the papers in order. Once the stuff is in stock marstar in on the hook for any bad cases of ammo and most likely any of the shipment that is damaged on its way over here. There is also the risk factor I asume of the ammo getting held in customs if a mistake is mad on the books. Everything taken into account, they probally triple their money on these purchases when they sell it retail (all be it alot is wholesaled to dealers around the county), which is no different then what wallmart does on most of its imports from asia. If it was such a gold mine, there would be hundreds of dealers doing it. I know of only 4 In Canada who have the means of bringing in surplus.
Another thing in regards to prices for anyone who wonders why gun things are so high in Canada vs the USA. Because of import laws (and US eport laws) there has to be a central sorce to bring in bulk product (if everyone did it on their own we would not see half the items we have in the local sporting good stores) These middle men need to take portion to justify the work, once the item gets to the retail store, they need to make a bigger margin the US stores, given that Canada has about 5% the gun market of the USA but the same land mass, stores are more spread out and see alot fewer people come thru the doors then say a gun store in Virgina.
One last point in regards to firearms retail in Canada, people often ask smaller dealers to match the price of larger retail outlets (SIR, Wholesale Sports). If you take a gun from Savage arms for an example. It may cost SIR $330.00 shipped to the store. A small ma and pa shop cannot afford the $250 000 minimum order that Savage arms requires to buy direct. So the $330.00 gun is shipped to the Canadian wholesaler. They will tack on $40.00 to do the work, ship it to the small gun shop for another $10.00. So now you have a gun that SIR sells for $430.00 and if the samll gun shop matches prices they only make $50.00 off of it. 12% margin does not keep the lights on. Keep in mind that many of the large retail outlets pay around minimum wage and no small gun shop owner is going to go thru the hastle of running a store for $14000.00 a year. Just thought I could shed some light on the dealer side of things, because I am often asked to match prices on stuff the big boys carry. If a small gun dealer tries to be the best price in the land it would not be long before all us dealers would be be living out of a card board box.
Another thing in regards to prices for anyone who wonders why gun things are so high in Canada vs the USA. Because of import laws (and US eport laws) there has to be a central sorce to bring in bulk product (if everyone did it on their own we would not see half the items we have in the local sporting good stores) These middle men need to take portion to justify the work, once the item gets to the retail store, they need to make a bigger margin the US stores, given that Canada has about 5% the gun market of the USA but the same land mass, stores are more spread out and see alot fewer people come thru the doors then say a gun store in Virgina.
One last point in regards to firearms retail in Canada, people often ask smaller dealers to match the price of larger retail outlets (SIR, Wholesale Sports). If you take a gun from Savage arms for an example. It may cost SIR $330.00 shipped to the store. A small ma and pa shop cannot afford the $250 000 minimum order that Savage arms requires to buy direct. So the $330.00 gun is shipped to the Canadian wholesaler. They will tack on $40.00 to do the work, ship it to the small gun shop for another $10.00. So now you have a gun that SIR sells for $430.00 and if the samll gun shop matches prices they only make $50.00 off of it. 12% margin does not keep the lights on. Keep in mind that many of the large retail outlets pay around minimum wage and no small gun shop owner is going to go thru the hastle of running a store for $14000.00 a year. Just thought I could shed some light on the dealer side of things, because I am often asked to match prices on stuff the big boys carry. If a small gun dealer tries to be the best price in the land it would not be long before all us dealers would be be living out of a card board box.
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Add export from whatever country the stuff comes out of, shipping, CBSA fees (various) custom broker ... And you EASILY eat up any perceived profit from that website's prices versus Canadian street prices ... Unless you have the kind of money to buy MILLIONS of rounds at a time mind you ... And as I understand it Marstar bought just about damned near evey round they could get their hands on over there ... I sure as hell ain't ever gonna come close to faulting them on THAT deal ...
Marstar has employee's and whatnot that need to get payed. This isnt the early 90's where they could move huge lots and make a profit that way, now its more about profit per item.
Also Marstar is the last real dealler of its type left in Canada, and when you're basically the only business in town, you can choose what prices you feel the market can take.
But if you really have a problem with Marstar prices, just buy Marstar from John and charge what you feel for there products. I always hear John is looking for someone to buy marstar from him.
Also Marstar is the last real dealler of its type left in Canada, and when you're basically the only business in town, you can choose what prices you feel the market can take.
But if you really have a problem with Marstar prices, just buy Marstar from John and charge what you feel for there products. I always hear John is looking for someone to buy marstar from him.
