Damn Porcupines AGAIN, post 167... Nos decided to kill one... PICS POST 49

HOLY FCUK !!!!
Those are some serious quills your dog has there.Those Wirehairs sure have some determination bred into them.
They are a wonderful dog, companion and the hunter that is them is simply amazing.
These dogs are used to hunt wild boar and bear in their Mother Land,they will track, run down, point and retrieve... not to mention they have no fear period !
Anyways, I am sure you searched deep inside and went with the right decision even if it did lighten the hunting fund substantially.
Good Hunting and a Speedy Recovery to the Dog.
Rob
 
You did the only thing a decent dog loving owner would and should do. I have a black lab and a Golden. They are FAMILY. I get hefty vet bills every once in a while, but I never regret paying them. I hear in some places they have insurance for dogs. You maybe want to looki into that.
last year my Lab was literally inches away from a baby porcupine before I intervened. Luckily no injuries. Hope NOS has a speedy recovery.
 
I guess the good thing about all of this is the quills didn't get his eyes.
Goofy chit you have there.
I think I'm going to have nightmares now.
Hope Nossy learned from this.
Put up a porkie photo by his water dish.
 
aletheuo said:
Small, eh? I simply don't have give my heart the opportunity to connect with a species other than a human being. I have an understanding of what we are put here on this earth to do. We are to be stewards of creation. Putting $2k into a dog isn't being stewardly. It's being wasteful. Unless, of course, the dog is a trained tool and worth that much to replace to do the work. Now, human beings, they are a special creation and priceless!

That's my paradigm. What's yours?
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What........a.......*******.


PS What I wanted to post would have probably got me banned so I had to delete what I wrote and leave it at those 3 words that basically sum you up anyway.

Maybe I'll add that I'd place a Dog above many many humans on My list of "Special Creations". Spend time at a womens shelter my friend. People can be worse than wild animals. My wife could have been raped and murdered if not for the fact that I was home that day. (made a thread a little while ago about it) Not all humans are created equal. Not all humans are priceless. Ok I have to stop here.
 
years ago the vet used to ask what the dog would weigh and give us a syringe with enough stuff in it to knock the animal out for a few hours so we could cut and pull the quills.
They likely won't do that anymore and even if they did after seeing the pictures I wouldn't want to attempt it.
Being born and raised on a farm and still farming, I have had to put a lot of animals down over the years so try not to become too attached to any animal, but sometimes it happens especially with dogs. They truly are mans best friend and you did what you had to do. Hope it turns out well and maybe, just a maybe he will take a second look next time.
 
Jay said:
Well folks, he is one sore puppy!!! Sleeping at my feet & for the first time NOT enthusiastically eating!!! (Wonder why, frig that's gotta be sore!!!) Even with melted cheese, Nos had a hard time swallowing the antibiotic pill...

Anyhow, here's the pics I promised. As you can see, I'm not sure it's possible to remove this amount of quills in a dogs mouth, without putting the dog under anesthetic to do it...

Cheers
Jay

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I wish I had pictures from a few years a go (SW Saskatchewan) when my pal's dog went on a suspiciously long point.. then suddenly dove in to some bushes.

Tia (German Shorthair) looked a bit like NOS .... came out yelping and rubbing her face ..... HOLY SMOKES!!!!

I was hunting with 2 friends and 1 pal said OMG ... We gotta get to a vet!
Having never dealt with quills before (a bit naive) I said... no, grab the dog , hold her and I'll pull them.

Well, I'll tell you, it was an intense 45 minutes of quill yanking.... BUT, I got them all. Poor dog struggled at first, then after about the 1st 20 were removed, Tia realized this had to be done and relaxed ...kinda! She let me work and never tried to bite me.

The quills were all over her face, inside her mouth and covering her tongue, a way back and just loaded...... What a mess!

Thank god for a pair of folding Gerber pliers!

We were 1/2 and hour hike from the truck and more than 2 hours drive to the closest vet.

After the more than 250 quills were removed, the poor hound gave her head a shake... had a big drink of water ... and within about 1 minute was ready to go back on point for Sharptails.

Amazing animal! TOUGH!

Had we waited and taken the dog to the vet, those quills would have worked their way in deeper and I'm sure would have cost $1000.00+ to remove.

I'll never forget that hunt!

Lucky
 
Evolution is amazing, and the porcupine got something right. Quills are very hard to remove as they are barbed when seen under a microscope. Easy in, nasty out. I don't know what you can do to keep the dog away if they won't learn from the experience, maybe get a porcupine doll and do some conditioning.

Poor pooch, but when you mess with critters, sometimes you get the pointy end.
 
aletheuo said:
Small, eh? I simply don't have give my heart the opportunity to connect with a species other than a human being. I have an understanding of what we are put here on this earth to do. We are to be stewards of creation. Putting $2k into a dog isn't being stewardly. It's being wasteful. Unless, of course, the dog is a trained tool and worth that much to replace to do the work. Now, human beings, they are a special creation and priceless!

That's my paradigm. What's yours?
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People are highly overrated.

A good dog can be the best and most loyal of friends, will forgive your failings more easily, protect you in your sleep, and will never do to a person anything out of malice or ill will. That cannot be said of most humans.

I've also known of a fair number of dogs which were considerably more intelligent than a LOT of people.

What say you, friend, on the price of love between God's living creatures irrespective of the form they take?


To Jay: Good Luck, good healing, and hopefully no more porcupine episodes for Nos. :)

UncleMax
 
UncleMax said:
People are highly overrated.

A good dog can be the best and most loyal of friends, will forgive your failings more easily, protect you in your sleep, and will never do to a person anything out of malice or ill will. That cannot be said of most humans.

I've also known of a fair number of dogs which were considerably more intelligent than a LOT of people.

What say you, friend, on the price of love between God's living creatures irrespective of the form they take?


To Jay: Good Luck, good healing, and hopefully no more porcupine episodes for Nos. :)

UncleMax
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I agree UncleMax, people are overated. Loyalty is loyalty, a lot of people will disappoint in this category. If I had to choose between my pets suffering, or a person I didn't care for... let's just leave that statement unfinished.
 
blaxsun said:
Hey Jay, glad to hear your pup is doing better. Do we want to know what the final damage ($) was...? Youch, that looks painful!
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Damage so far was $1271 last night, followed by $50 this morning for pain meds... Nos was in pretty rough shape this morning, moaning in pain... My wife told me to go get the pain meds... This after me telling her, he didn't need pain meds & that if he wanted to tangle with porkies, he could deal with the pain... Can you tell I wear the pants? ha ha

Anyhow, it's been expensive & definitely was overpriced, but seeing as how I'm in a big city & it was after hours emergency service... They had us by the short & curlies...

Nos is feeling better with the pain meds, here's hoping he learned a lesson! I doubt it, but I am hoping!

Cheers
Jay
 
Looking at your hunting photos, I think he is probably worth more then you paid the vet.
I have worked with animals pretty well my whole life (32 years) was raised on a farm, and manage a "swine production facility" right now. I have put down many animals.
But a dog is different, I have no problem letting them get into my heart.
 
hoping he learned a lesson! I doubt it, but I am hoping!
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Hope he has too but do not count on it, I owned a horse (who by every other measure was smart) who would jam her face into each and every porqupine she came across, This went on for years and was a substantial consumer of time. I must have killed 100 of them and removed many thousands of quills from lips, nostrils etc. . Nothing like the mess Nos got himself into but pretty close. IMHO the 1300 for fixing up that tragedy was a bargain. He is lucky to be alive.

BTW those prickly bastards are pretty tastey.
 
Best way for removing quills - Vinegar and baking soda solution apply generously, wait 20mins, re-apply, 20 mins, then remove easily. I've done this a few times with my old dog, works great!
 
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