Daniel Defense

TDC said:
Different taste is pointless without reason and logic to support it. If you don't run a laser designator, NV, a light and a sling, then you don't need all the rails, so why get them? If you're using a bipod you're wrong, the setup isn't designed for precision work. Regardless, you could still use your bipod with a small piece of rail up front as opposed to a full length one.
TDC
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Man give it up, not everyone works the same, every time u post its negative, live a lil cheer up.

I like the ##### the way she is
 
Farmboy said:
Just a heads up for anyone switching stocks, DD uses a commercial buffer tube. We've had a couple calls from clients this week who ordered Milspec stocks.
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That doesn't make sense though. Right on DD's website for the v5 it states.

Butt Stock: MAGPUL MOE Butt Stock & Mil-Spec Receiver Extension
 
That doesn't make sense though. Right on DD's website for the v5 it states.

Butt Stock: MAGPUL MOE Butt Stock & Mil-Spec Receiver Extension
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Yup. It's states Mil-Spec multiple times over on all ads, on the tags on the rifles etc.

However after have 2 clients tried to put Mil-spec stocks on, no go. I tried with one of the rifles we have here in the store and it's the same as well, commercial tube.
 
Farmboy said:
Yup. It's states Mil-Spec multiple times over on all ads, on the tags on the rifles etc.

However after have 2 clients tried to put Mil-spec stocks on, no go. I tried with one of the rifles we have here in the store and it's the same as well, commercial tube.
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I had mine changed to the same stock but Tan
 
Its here & love it
 

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Farmboy said:
Yup. It's states Mil-Spec multiple times over on all ads, on the tags on the rifles etc.

However after have 2 clients tried to put Mil-spec stocks on, no go. I tried with one of the rifles we have here in the store and it's the same as well, commercial tube.
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I ordered a Milspec stock from you to replace the Magpul MOE stock that came with it, and I had no issues. Mine is 100% a Milspec stock on my DDM4V5
 
Farmboy said:
Yup. It's states Mil-Spec multiple times over on all ads, on the tags on the rifles etc.

However after have 2 clients tried to put Mil-spec stocks on, no go. I tried with one of the rifles we have here in the store and it's the same as well, commercial tube.
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Really interesting.

For about the last year I've been hearing rumours about things getting a little strange at DD, but no details. Just people turning away from them as a company.

This is the first hard data I have actually seen on what's been changing there (not that I've been looking).

A very interesting development.
 
misanthropist said:
Really interesting.

For about the last year I've been hearing rumours about things getting a little strange at DD, but no details. Just people turning away from them as a company.

This is the first hard data I have actually seen on what's been changing there (not that I've been looking).

A very interesting development.
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Any time a Co. grows very quickly in a short amount of time, there are issues.

They have a solid product at a reasonable price-point. I hope they don't ruin their good rep.
Not that a simple buffer tube would, I just hope this is the last issue that I hear. There are plenty of crummy manufacturers already. We don't need anymore. lol

I'm curious to know why OST stopped dealing with them...
 
c0ntract said:
Here is a brief synopsis of the differences among models.

There is no internal differences among lowers or uppers, the V# correlates to the load out. Some models the rail, and rail length are the only differences from another. Most models come in more than one cal, the V3, V5, V7 are offered in 5.56, 6.8, 300 aac. (MK18 or SBR is 5.56 or 300)

MK18 is a 10.3" barrel, CARBINE length gas tube, flat top with low pro gas block and RISII MK18 handguards around 5.6lbs -6 lbs (300 aac vs 556) 300 AAC model is not technically called a MK18, it is the "DDM 300 SBR" and it runs a Pistol length gas system.

V1 is a carbine length gas system with 16" M4 profile barrel, Front Sight Block, Fixed rear site, and a 12" DDM4 rail (6.15 lbs)
V2 - nearly identical to V1 but with a 7" rail, designed to be a lower weight option to the V1 (6.10 lbs)
V3 - its a V1 with a mid length gas system, Govt prof barrel and a 9" rail (6.12 lbs)
V4 16" M4 barrel with a low pro gas block and a 9" Monolithic DDM4 rail (flat top, designed for aftermarket optics, no front sight post, no irons come with it) ( 6.7 lbs)
V5 16" Govt prof barrel with low pro gas block and a Monolithic DDM4 rail 12" (V5 is designed as a aftermarket optics ready platform, no irons or sights come with it) (6.4lbs)
V7 16" M4 barrel with low pro gas block and a modular FF tube rail, 12" (no front sight post, designed for aftermarket optics) (6.9 lbs)
V7 SPCII - 18" CMVS barrel in 6.8 the rest is the same as the regular V7.

Several models are offered with a light weight barrel option, and more than one barrel profile. The V3, V5 and V7 are offered in more than one gas system length. Some models later came with revised rail systems, my last DDM4V5 came with the newer style rail system.


Long story short, if you are trying to decide what one to pic ask yourself 1) am I going to put an optic on it ? 2) do I need irons? 3) how much rail space do I need? 4) do I care how heavy it is? you can narrow it down fast.

Most people take the V5 because its light, its optic ready and they intend to run a aimpoint/eotech or etc and because it is a gov profile barrel.
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Thanks bud, that's exactly the synopsis I was looking for
 
I'm curious to know why OST stopped dealing with them...
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Business politics. We would still continue to carry them if we weren't treated the way we were. I still have friends there that I talk to though.



That said, there have been a some changes this year at DD (people) like said above, however the one I know about is for the better.

I'm not sure what's going on with the buffer tubes, could only be on a few due to demand/backorders that happened before.


Wolverines won the contract...
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There was no "contract"
 
DuckHunt93 said:
thats weird people mentioning DD having some commercial tubes on their rifle :S I have seen quite a few DD rifles and have yet to see a commercial tube on one.
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In all truth though it makes no difference on functionality, its just a different measurement...
 
Leibermuster said:
In all truth though it makes no difference on functionality, its just a different measurement...
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yes, but you think it's one measurement because thats what they lead you to believe and you're ordering a new stock online and paying shipping just to have it not fit... thats a #### move.
 
Leibermuster said:
In all truth though it makes no difference on functionality, its just a different measurement...
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Mil-spec for REs doesn't just cover the dimensions...also the material and manufacturing process.

A mil-spec tube meets specific requirements that a commercial tube may not. It may only be a different measurement but it may also be different materials and manufacturing. There is no "spec" to meet.
 
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