Danish Army: Elcan Spectre DR to replace C79

Older C79s it was common, and even with later mods it was encountered.
If you have a later mod and use it as a range toy, it is very likely ok, however I just know that when I was in the EO Techs were constantly busy with them.


I've only heard of the DRs having zero shift thirdhand with flipping from 1 to 4 power and back again, not experienced it myself because I can't bring myself to spending that much coin on such a limited scope, whether it shifts or not.

You just need to put on the Gen4 mount. How you tell if it's a Gen4 mount you will see a hole at the front that's been filled in and at the back and underneath you will see a hole with a roll bin in them. The holes have springs and detents in them to hold zero and have more positives clicks of adjustment.
 
I heard it was an issue with prism in the optic that has been rectified on newer generation dr. The external adjusters are also prone to getting debris locked. Especially in places with fine sand.

The acog remains the preffered option for me. Simple, lightweight. Decent reticle and no batteries required. And if anything tougher than an elcan.

The very first batch commercial DR I had back like more than 10 years ago went back due to the zero shift issue between 1x and 4x - The DR is a native 4X, the 1X is created by some optical magic to bring the 4X back to 1X. They gave me a new one and the new one worked like a charm.

I personally think ACOG and mini redot is a better solution for carbines and rifles. Much lighter and much faster to go between 1x and 4x - but I think the reason some militaries move away from ACOG has to deal with that they want an optic useable on both rifles and LMG in both 5.56 and 7.62. 1.5" eye relieve doesn't work on SAW and LMG, and it doesn't work on 7.62 rifle.
 
The C79A2 has one failing and that is being the size and weight of a brick. The DR had, had zero shift issues when first released that is long since a problem.
 
It has many more failings then that. Exposed adjustments, mount nuts not property torquable, ww2 reticle concept combining mils and weird half assed range finding methods with moa turret adjustments, eye relief not functional for helmet use, a BDC elevation turret, rubber battle sight...etc endless errors. Not fit for 21st centry work. Probably great for ww2 though.

This !


Its not a bad optic but it is an older technologies with a lot to be desired when compared to other optics designed for the same purpose.
 
The C79A2 has one failing and that is being the size and weight of a brick. The DR had, had zero shift issues when first released that is long since a problem.

I watched a C79 failed two weekends ago. The windage bolt popped out and started free spinning. It is the way it is. There is no cure.

Notice that the DR's front mounting is actually the inverted version of the C79. The engineers probably had drawn from a few lessons learnt when they designed the DR.
 
I am not defending the C79. It was cutting edge 80s tech and needed to be retired a decade ago. I would make the OS3 the general purpose/ issue optic (with an improved reticle) the fact that it never caught on leaves me puzzled.
 
Older C79s it was common, and even with later mods it was encountered.
If you have a later mod and use it as a range toy, it is very likely ok, however I just know that when I was in the EO Techs were constantly busy with them.


I've only heard of the DRs having zero shift thirdhand with flipping from 1 to 4 power and back again, not experienced it myself because I can't bring myself to spending that much coin on such a limited scope, whether it shifts or not.

I have a 1.5/6x...on 1.5x the center dot is 6 MOA, at 6x it is 1.5 MOA...kinda hard to shoot sub MOA on 1.5x when the center recticle is that big...probably has more to do with "zero shift" then anything else...but on 1.5x with a dot that size, its very fast.
 
I am not defending the C79. It was cutting edge 80s tech and needed to be retired a decade ago. I would make the OS3 the general purpose/ issue optic (with an improved reticle) the fact that it never caught on leaves me puzzled.

I quite like the OS3X other than the reticle. The dots/subtensions at 18 moa (mine has the BDC turret) are kinda puzzling.
 
It has many more failings then that. Exposed adjustments, mount nuts not property torquable, ww2 reticle concept combining mils and weird half assed range finding methods with moa turret adjustments, eye relief not functional for helmet use, a BDC elevation turret, rubber battle sight...etc endless errors. Not fit for 21st centry work. Probably great for ww2 though.

LOL...

WW2 reticle eh?
 
The C79A2 Elcan will begin to become increasingly unreliable as they are maintained by the military to individual levels of competency and quality in workshops across the country. I remember being told by one EOtech that nitrogen purging is not necessary when the humidity is low.
 
Back
Top Bottom