Danish Garands 101

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There is an excellent article in the 2012 spring issue of GCA Journal, the official publication of the Garand Collectors Assocation, on Danish Garands.

If you google it you can find out more about this association and yes you can buy back issues. They are excellent little magazines with good articles and nice color pics.

The author of this article interviewed the guy that exported all the Danish Garands. Yep, all of them.

I know many, including myself, wanted a clearer understanding of the history of these rifles. This article did an amazing job of it.

I will summarize the main points of the article here.

In 1949, under the Military Assistance Program (MAP), Denmark was loaned 20,000 M1 Garands from the USA. The contract stated they had to be returned when they were not needed anymore.

Denmark needed more small arms to equip it's new army, so ordered another 49,000 M1s and 1,000 M1Ds from the Americans. The last US made Garands made it to Denmark in 1964. The total of all US Garands sent to Denmark, loaned or purchased, equalled 69,810.

They then ordered another 10,000 Italian made M1s from Breda Works, and another 10,000 from Petro Beretta.

In 1966 Denmark adopted the 7.62 NATO round. Some experiments were made to convert Garands to 7.62 but nothing really came of it. The Garands remained the principal rifle of Danish infantry till 1975 when they decided to go with the G3. A fine German weapon.

The Garands were slowly phased out. Ending up with reserve and home guard units while the regular army got the new rifles. For those of you that were in the reserves using the FN C1, while the Reg force had the C7, you can relate to this.

Around 1979/80 the Garands were put into storage. Cleaned and greased up. Kind of like many collections here before the LGR was enacted!

Then in 1998 they were sold to a Danish company called Topmark Trading for export. This caused a political storm in Denmark, and the exporting company had to jump through some hoops, but they did get em.

Since 20,000 US made could not be "sold back" because they were under the MAP deal they were actually returned to the US. FREE! These guns were put in the Civilian Marksmanship Program and sold to US buyers.

Topmark Trading then got about 40,435 Garands that they sold to gun wholesalers in the US, Canada, Germany, and Switzerland. These included US and Italian made, and 909 out of the 1000 M1Ds. That leaves 91 M1Ds in museums or some Danish officers basement....

Some guns that made it into Canada, as a whole, had to be broken down to bring it into the US. I guess back in 98' there was more demand for them in the US and the Canadian wholesalers ordered more than they could sell here. That would not happen today....right?!

Markings. The Breda and Beretta Garands have the Danish crown, but not the US made. Denmark did a huge overhaul program in the mid 60s and the ones that needed it were given new Danish barrels and they also changed some stocks to new beechwood. They may have a DK, crown, or VAR marking on those barrels. Apparently those Danish barrels were well made and known for great accuracy.

The M1D was not given a lot of attention in the article. Very unfortunate. I own one (as of a few days ago - YES!), and it's a 1941 Springfield receiver with a 1952 Springfield barrel. That appears to be in line with the large US order from 1950-1964 which included 1000 M1Ds. The m84 scope has the Danish crown. From other sources it appears the Danes marked these scopes after getting them from the Americans. They were valuable, and they wanted it clear it was the property of the Danish government. They are original, not repros.

I think the Danish Garands need to be given a bit more respect out there. And not just because I own one. The US made ones were likely GI issued in WW2. If I had to put a GI Garand in anyone's hands between 1945 and when it got into mine, well....I would prefer a western army, professional, that did not have to use it (and thus maybe abuse it!). The Danes probably took good care of them, and likely did not shoot them too much. Sorry to all the Danes out there-but you know its likely true. Far better you got them, then in the hands of 20+ owners around the world...hunting with them, sporterizing them, doing god knows what.

So take out your "Danish" Garand and crack open a Carlsberg. A fine GI weapon that happenned to have a long vacation in northern Europe before ending up back home, well almost home.

Skaal!
(thats cheers in Danish)
 
I bought a danish for 400 bucks. I remember thinking it was a ridiculous over-priced rifle - but I had to have it. Came with sling, a nifty cleaning tool. Bayonet, and the US army M1 manual for the M1.

I remember the guy asking me if I wanted an M1D for 600 bucks. I nearly choked at the price and thought I was making a wise decision saving my cash.
 
I purchased my Danish for 500 bucks from a Canadian infantryman, recently returned from Bosnia and wanted out of the army pronto. He was raising cash for his high pressure welding course. Strange as it my be, the last three digits of the rifle serial number coincided with my squadron at the time. "441".........f@cking weird!
I even used once it at Bull Meadow, well before I owned a dedicated target rifle. Did alright with it considering. And the appearance of this rifle at a local match at Willow Bunch, Saskatchewan, even got a Vietnam Veteran to chat with us. His war story of the Tet Offensive was hair raising indeed. These amazing artifacts of history always seem to catch attention & draw interesting people out of a crowd IMO.

Thank you Sledge.
 
Good article sledge. I agree with you about the Danish Garands. Excellent rifles.

The Danes rebuilt a lot of their Garands, including the Breda and Beretta rifles.

Mine has a Breda receiver, Var bbl, Breda trigger group and Beretta walnut stock. No USGI parts at all. It shoots very well for those with good eyes.

I also have an M1D but it isn't Danish. It's Norwegian. Very similar rifles and well taken care of.

Was there any mention of the Canadian Garands that supposedly were sold to Denmark? They would be indistinguishable from the USGI rifles.

I don't know if the Garands that Canada had were lend lease and just returned or what. I seem to remember an article about them going to Denmark.

Every Dane marked Garand I've seen, shot well. I've seen some that looked like they went through WWII and were dragged through the dirt for another 25 years. No finish on metal or wood. Mixmasters of US and Italian parts with Beech stocks. Even these rifles did well.

One I used to own, had plastic inserts in the wood, under the floor plate to tighten up the bedding. The bore was about 50% (the worst Dane I've seen) but it shot better than I could shoot it.

I completely agree, the Danish Garands don't get enough respect. The same goes for other lend lease rifles. Many of them, saw a lot of action before being FTRed and leased. Many of them never left Europe after WWII. Same goes for the Far East.

The Germans and Japanese, scoured the nations they invaded for every working rifle they could get their hands on.

Denmark, like a lot of other nations, looked to the US for help. They could have done a lot worse than the Garand by a long shot as a replacement arm.
 
Sweet, nice info to have. A have a Winchester Garand, all Winchester except for Danish sights and a VAR barrel. My second Garand is a Danish Breda, it is in better shape than the winny but they both shoot well.
 
The article did mention a Canadian connection. The Danes equipped their reserve home guard units in 1953 with P17s "purchased" from Canada. From what I know of P17s we received them from the States as part of lend lease during the war. For our own home guard units. Though you'd think we would stick with the same calibre for a home guard weapon, a .303, instead of getting a new one altogether with a 30-06 rifle.

Hopefully if we did charge the Danes it was not too much. Seems cheeky to get free rifles and then sell them. We should have paid it forward. But if the Danes wanted a 30-06 bolt action to equip their second line units then there should have been plenty of Springfields out there - but perhaps they liked the P17 more. I own one of them and it is an excellent and accurate rifle. Another under appreciated rifle - the P14 and P17.
 
Every serious Garand wanker should join the Garand Collectors Association. They publish the Journal 4x yearly and it is full of good info from knowledgable folks.

There is still a lot of speculation about "Canadian Garands". A friend tells me that there were both rifles and parts in store at Longue Pointe depot in Montreal in the 1950s, and that some of the packaging for spares that came back from Denmark was Canadian. I suspect that this was the leftovers from the Garands that were obtained from the US to equip the Canadian Army Pacific Force, which was to be organized and equipped along US lines, for the invasion of Japan. I have, and make use of, a copy of the US Army 1947 Tech manual that came out of the 25 COD technical library.

Other than the weapons procured for the Pacific Force, the only other official use of the Garand by Cdn Forces was by RCAF base defence personnel in Europe in the early 1950s. All types of US small arms were aquired and used unofficially by Cdn troops in Korea, especially the M1/M2 Carbine which was favoured for fighting patrols because of it's light weight and firepower.

I'd guess the Danes went for the M1917 to arm their reserve troops because they were available, rugged, simple, and no doubt CHEAP. I did once some negotiations with the Danish Army over equipment and found them and their accountants to be extra thrifty.

The Danes appeared to have maintained excellent technical control of their rifles while in use and storage, unlike some of the ash and trash which has been imported from other sources. I've owned quite a few of the ex-Danish rifles and receivers and have never encountered a receiver or a barrel which was worn to the point of unservicability. For a build project I'd recommend a Danish Breda or Beretta receiver paired with one of their excellent VAR barrels.
 
Districorp had the M1D's and I bought 10 of them. I also bought additional scopes with mounts and the M1D flash hiders. They parted out most of the M1D's and sent them to the US as parts kits.
 
It's kinda funny but I'm now on my 6th and 7th Garand Both have VAR barrels my first garand also had a VAR barrel (Wish I still had it). I wouldn't say they have awsome accuracy but it is good as the barrels are practically brand new .. well at least on mine they have been.
 
Posting pics of my M1D - one of the 1000 the Danes bought from the USA and sold to export market in 1998.

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SIR in Winnipeg was selling Bredas for 200$. They had about 3 skids full of them. I cleaned the cosmo off many of them as it was better than dealing with the public. ;)
I couldn't afford to buy one.:(:(:(:(
 
I finally picked up a Garand and it is a Beretta make. It has a ( RSC 1955 and a circle with looks like a PK in it ) Barrel on it, Does anyone know what RSC stands for ??
 
Are you sure that the circle isn't PB? Because it sounds like it was a Beretta factory replacement or original barrel.
 
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