Deer Baiting ??

Pretty hard to bait in southern parts of the province where the bush is surrounded by crops and abandoned apple orchards. The deer around here have a regular smorgasbord available. I like to take out afew apples for a treat every now and then. Last time a fox squirrel was at the pile before I was 10 steps away.
 
I am in BC.
Baiting for bear is not allowed.
I asked a C.O. about baiting deer. He said that it is allowed, because it generally does not work.
I didn't ask about a salt lick.
 
Baiting deeer, if it is done properly, DOES work.
However, for every system of hunting there are disadvantages, and baiting is one where that has oppomants.

Before baiting bears was allowed in Alberta, the number of big bears killed was pretty high in comparison to the amount of small bears, but I think that if someone went into the records, they would find an overwhelming number of bears killed in total since baiting was allowed.
I really think that thee are a large number of hunters who hunt bear now by baiting, than there were before baiting was allowed.

I don't know how it would effect the deer numbers in Alberta if we allowed baiting and I don't want to dwell on it .
There is a difference ( to my way of thinking, anyway) of seeding a patch of clover or sugar beets , and digging a pit and filling it with carrots.

Cat
 
I bait and feed all year around... for all the wildlife, even coyotes.;)
We have created extensive food plots on managed property, we will plant at least 10 acres this year in additional food plots.:cool:
The idea that this is somehow easier or unethical is completely ridiculous.:mad:
Surrounding these properties are hundreds/thousands of acres of agriculture with everything from grain to alfalfa. The food plots and bait piles are not only beneficial and healthy for the deer and other wildlife, but they save a lot of crop damage for the farmers.
Anybody who believes that throwing a bushel of apples on the ground is a guarantee to shoot a deer is never going to understand baiting anyway.:rolleyes:
 
tootall said:
I am in BC.
Baiting for bear is not allowed.
I asked a C.O. about baiting deer. He said that it is allowed, because it generally does not work.
I didn't ask about a salt lick.
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The only big game in BC that you cannot use soem sort of bait with in is bear.

You can use salt licks for deer etc if you are so inclined. :)
 
i am pretty sure you can use salt licks here in ontario and you can bait for deer and bear ( i have a stock of 100lbs of donuts frozen in my deep freezer for next bear season hehehe) as far as un ethical its no more unethical then where camo and useing cover sents because all you doing is makeing an easier opurtunity for a cleaner quicker kill and personal i find that anything to make the kill faster and cleaner is good
 
Salt licks do not do much in the hunting season anyway, most of the extra salt that is needed is during the spring after the does give birth. We clean up our old apple trees and plant food plots as well as put out salt licks. We do not anticipate shooting any deer off these baits but rather have put them there so that during the year when more is needed it is available.
 
My train of thought has always been "keep the doe's around and the bucks will follow". So it doesn't really matter if the deer are coming into your bait or not, as long as you can keep them in the general area you have a better chance of scoring a buck.
 
My train of thought has always been "keep the doe's around and the bucks will follow". So it doesn't really matter if the deer are coming into your bait or not, as long as you can keep them in the general area you have a better chance of scoring a buck.
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Always been my way of thinking, during the rut, hunt the does. And chances are you may not find a huge trophy near a feeding station during daylight hours. Better off on a trail at noon:)
Frank
 
Damn straight.

I've never actually witnessed a buck walking into my bait.

Walked in one morning and there were two scrapping it out about 50 yds away from it, I'm thinking they were there for awhile fighting over a hot doe that was at the pile or something.
 
i was just looking for a dictionary........to look up the word baiting...but i could not find one:p
so baiting is what??luring something with food or an odor?
doe in heat is a smell:confused:
buck in rut is a smell:confused:
smell of apples is a smell:confused:
now to add in the calls:confused:
these are are baiting to me...they are all a way of luring some game to your spot, to blast the #### out of them:eek:

cheers all


happy hunting;)
 
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In manitoba you are not allowed to hunt within 500 yds.of a bait site .Thats OK as the does are usually over there,whilst i am on the buck path waiting foryou know who.mad dog you are 100% ccorrect.keep the does off the roads and the boys will show up sooner or later.Does not on the road also keep lead from zinging by my head:eek:
 
In Ontario, it has always been my understanding that you may bait for any species except migratory waterfowl, which are covered under the federal regulations. Salt licks are bait. Deer cocaine (based on salt) is bait.
PLEASE SEE NOTE FROM BIGREDD BELOW ABOUT BAITING FOR WILD TURKEYS, WHICH IS ILLEGAL. THANKS FOR THE INFO!


My bow-hunting partner and I do bait for white-tails on the small property where we have permission to hunt. It is agricultural land around us with many food choices for the deer, who grow big and fat on the ample food, including lots of acorns and hickory nuts. It is still highly advantageous to have the bait (we use apples) set up and maintained through the season, and since we have been baiting we are definitely seeing more deer. This is still no guarantee of success, however - I bow-hunted many days last year and did not even SEE a deer within bow range, let alone have an opportunity for a shot. But I did have confidence that I WOULD see a deer, because our baits were being hit regularly, and I did see deer at bait piles, or going towards bait piles, quite often.

In an area with more or less random deer distribution, and restrictive land use permission, the use of baits has definitely helped us to take more deer over the years than had we not been baiting. I know that some folks do not condone baiting, and if their desire is to sit day after day in a tree stand in the hope that a deer might blunder into their kill zone, they have my full blessing to do whatever they think is best..........

Doug
 
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In addition to baiting migratory birds, hunting Turkeys over bait is illegal as well in Ontario.
This is a recent addition to the regs and many hunters are unaware of this serious infraction!
 
Thanks BIGREDD, I did NOT know that! Not that I have baited turkeys before, but I had thought I might try this year to put out some corn up at the new hunt camp (if the legals ever get sorted out!). I met one of the hillbilly neighbours who has apparently had some success with this.

Now that I know that it is illegal, I sure as hell won't! Thanks, my friend!

Doug
 
Levi Garrett said:
Baiting makes you a lazy hunter:p
Frank
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You obviously have never baited anything have you?

There's a ton of time & effort goes into it !

Besides I have trouble seeing the diff between a hunter that sits watching an orchard as oppossed to a guy that sits watching some apples on the ground because maybe he doesn't have an orchard available to him :rolleyes:
 
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