deer hunting with 223

Silverado said:
In my opinion, .22's are for these

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not these

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Correct :roll:

Why is it, that some people are always trying to go for the smaller bullet/cartridge for larger game :?: :?

Is it for some strange reason that it is a matter of showing that anything is possible in the hands of the 'great hunter' or what???

Is it similar to the same situation that, in business, sometimes, the short little guy (manager) has to pull rank as in 'chip on the shoulder' :?:

Why is it, that some people, are trying to prove that they can shoot something bigger with something smaller :? :? :?
 
They say the size of the cartridge you use is in direct relation to the size of your #####.


There. Who's gonna touch that one with a 10' pole? :p :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
joe-nwt has a Freudian Slip:
They say the size of the cartridge you use is in direct relation to the size of your #####.


There. Who's gonna touch that one with a 10' pole?

Joe your scaring me with these random ### thoughts of yours... did you actually read what you wrote.... :shock: :lol:
 
I recently took a 4 liter milk jug to the range, 50 yards- filled it with water and screwed the lid on.
My Tikka popped a .223 50grain soft point into it.. (Note: I said into- and not through!!)

The milk jug exploded/ruptured quite handily and fell on its side, a caliber sized hole going in and on the other side just a small 1cm split. The round moving at approx 3400 fps was stopped by this puny water column and I found the bullet in about fifty pieces laying in the bottom of the jug..
THIS BULLET DID EXACTLY AS IT WAS INTENDED!!

Now to a Deer- neck shot? you've got a fist size crater, massive shock/bleeding and instant venison. But if your aim is off/deflected- my guess is you'll never hunt again.

Lets end this for good, make this post a sticky.
Use enough gun!
 
Silverado said:
In my opinion, .22's are for these

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not these

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AGREED......
22s are 2 small for anything other then small varmin.
Exept maby the little queen charlet deer that are about the size of dogs.
talk to ya all later
Riley
 
In this province, the technical term for it is "illegal". Of course they can be killed with a .223, and you could run them down with a car, too, but not everything that can be done, should be done.
 
cdngunner said:
I heard there was this guy, snowhunter was his name IIRC, he used to use a .17 pellet gun to hunt deer...

A .177 pellet gun will not even penetrate the hair on a deer, never mind the skin.

I used to shoot rabbits in Scotland on the farm and used a Webley MK II air rifle, .22 cal and it was good for out to about 30/35 yds (crows also)

AND THAT WAS IT :roll:

You have a better chance of killing a deer with a sling shot :lol:
 
haggisbasher said:
cdngunner said:
I heard there was this guy, snowhunter was his name IIRC, he used to use a .17 pellet gun to hunt deer...

A .177 pellet gun will not even penetrate the hair on a deer, never mind the skin.

I used to shoot rabbits in Scotland on the farm and used a Webley MK II air rifle, .22 cal and it was good for out to about 30/35 yds (crows also)

AND THAT WAS IT :roll:

You have a better chance of killing a deer with a sling shot :lol:

Dang, talk about cheap ammo!! Why haven't I thought of the slingshot before? 8)

:lol: :lol:
 
We have been trying in england and wales to get 22 centre fire accepted for Muntjac and Chinese water deer, as they are not much bigger than dogs and 308 leaves a small amount of dog food. Funny thing is the Porrige W*gs are allowed to use 22 centrefire on Roe which are 2-3 times the size of Muntjac!
It has nothing to do with lightweight rifles and walking long distances as most sporting rifles weigh roughly the same. There are probably more heavy Vearmint target rifles around than sporters in 223.
Heh when did logic falwithin the same sentence as Government!
 
cariboo_kid said:
Awww, look at the cute little pump gun. You even took the cork out for the picture. :p


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Hey Paul, just because it looks like a deer gun doesn't mean that it is. :p
 
These can be shot in Scotland with 22 centre fire, not Eng

Roe Deer

(Capreolus capreolus)


Adult Size. 10 to 25kg, 60 to 75cm at shoulder (bucks - males slightly larger than does - females).
Colouration. Summer: reddish brown. Winter: grey, pale brown or (occasionally) black.
Antlers. Rugose, short (<30cm), 3 tines (points) on each.
Lifespan. Max: 16 years. Bucks rarely exceed 5 years, does 6 to 7 years. Heavy mortality at and shortly after birth and during first winter.
Social groups. Solitary, forming small groups in winter.
Time of birth. May to June.
Number of offspring. Up to 3, usually 1 or 2 kids.
Gestation period. 9 months (4 months of no embryonic growth followed by 5 months of foetal growth).
Food & feeding. Browsers that activley select different food types including herbs, brambles, ivy, heather, bilberry & coniferous tree shoots.

Habitat. Woodland and forest, but may occupy fields when at high densities.Status. Common & widespread. UK Distribution. Throughout Scotland and England except parts of Kent and the Midlands. Invading Wales from England. Recognition. Small & elegant. White rump patch with short tush in females. Black nose, white chin. Bounding gate when alarmed.


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Muntjac


(Muntiacus reevesi)



Recognition. Small, stocky, russet brown in summer, grey brown in winter. Long pedicles, short antlers and visible upper canines in bucks. Very large facial glands below the eyes. Ginger forehead with pronounced black lines running to the pedicles in bucks, dark U shape in does. Haunches higher than withers, giving a hunched appearance. Fairly wide tail, which is held erect when disturbed.

Adult size. Bucks (males): 10 to 18kg, 44 to 52cm at shoulder. Does (females): 9 to 16kg, 43 to 52cm at shoulder.

Antlers. Short (up to 10cm) but on long pedicles. Usually unbranched but brow tine occasionally found in old bucks.



Life span. Bucks: up to 16 years. Does: up to 19 years, but these are exceptional.

Status. Introduced. Widespread and increasing in number and range.

UK distribution. South and central England and Wales. North of the Humber distribution is patchy but reaches close to the Scottish border.

Food & feeding. Selective feeders that take small morsels from nutritious plants. Diet varies according to region and availability but may include herbs, brambles, ivy, heather, bilberry and coppice shoots.

Habitat. Deciduous or coniferous forests, preferably with a diverse understorey. Also found in scrub and over-grown gardens in urban areas.

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Now look at the sizes and tell me you wouldnt use a 22 centre fire on these? A 308 or even a 6.5 at times gives a lot of meat damage, perhaps a 311 in 125 gn such as the 7.62 x 39 in a short gun but we are hog tied by the deer act which gives minimum me levels. The Muntjac has no closed season, in fact you are encouraged to shoot does that dont have a kid at heel. They breed all year and are impossible to control let alone irradicate. Good meat though, they tend to move a lot only pausing in cover before rushing across woodland rides!
 
well 2 does down with my 223 this season, one fell right on the spot and the other made it about 3 steps... both were neck/spine shots from about 60 yards and both decent sized animals, nice 223 soft points, can't remember the name of the maker right now but its european in a green and yellowish box, 55 grains doing just over 3000 fps

had a steak last night, mighty tasty
 
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