deer hunting with 223

I'm thinking of trying the Barnes 70gr triple shock on a black tail next fall. Need to work up a good load for it but if a small cal can do it this bullet should do it. Has anyone used them yet?
 
I say GO FOR IT ... but maybe you should listen to hero's like BIGREDD and others as they'll disagree and say go with LARGE CALIBRES such as 30-06 or more ... :p ;)

Otokiak ... :cool:
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA

p.s. we shoot tuktu(caribou) all the time with .223 ... even 12 foot plus nanuqs(polar bears) ... ;)
 
Well I've shot alot of deer with 6.5x55, 308win, and 338win and I found the 6.5 to be top of that pile. I figure an accurate 223 with a really good bullet should be good to as long as the shot is well placed. The 70gr Barnes is a long bullet and solid with the opening end so it should make for a nasty wound track that passes clear through the deer.
 
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HeadDamage said:
Canadian forces... C7 VS. Polar bears while on artic patol ;)
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I'd buy that if you had an M203 or an unlimited supply of ammo! I'd prefer a big gun for big bears and I hear they dont come much bigger and nastier than Polars! Wait is that an SLR, yup I'll take that!
 
jiffydawg said:
well 2 does down with my 223 this season, one fell right on the spot and the other made it about 3 steps... both were neck/spine shots from about 60 yards and both decent sized animals, nice 223 soft points, can't remember the name of the maker right now but its european in a green and yellowish box, 55 grains doing just over 3000 fps

had a steak last night, mighty tasty
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IF YOU GONNA DO IT, DO IT RIGHT! DON'T USE A BULK, FACTORY, VARMINT BULLET YOU GOT CHEAP SOMEWHERE! :mad:

Use a proper bullet like a 70gr Speer or 60gr Nosler Partition. I load 70gr Speer SPs for such use on deer with a 22cal CF. They work alot better than the thin jacketed varmint bullets from CanTire or elsewhere. Those varmint bullets were designed for shooting SMALL game such as groundhogs, NOT 200lb deer.


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Otokiak said:
I say GO FOR IT ... but maybe you should listen to hero's like BIGREDD and others as they'll disagree and say go with LARGE CALIBRES such as 30-06 or more ... :p ;)

Otokiak ... :cool:
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA

p.s. we shoot tuktu(caribou) all the time with .223 ... even 12 foot plus nanuqs(polar bears) ... ;)
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Well Jason, shooting Caribou with a .223 in your local is one thing, if you don't get an immediate kill, where's it gonna go? In most other parts of Canada we have these things called "trees". If you put enough "trees" together, you get what we call a "forest". A "forest" is a great place for a wounded animal to hide while it suffers a slow death.

Sounds like polar bears with a 223 is getting to be old hat, maybe try a .204 next time. Come on, push the envelope!

There can I be on your hero's list now?:rolleyes:
 
Hey Supercub,I'm curious what powder you use for the 60 Partitions,I tried 3diffrent Hogdon powders and can't get a decent group from them.The hornady 60 sp shoot great with excellent groups.The 70 gr Speers also shoot well.I've only tried varget with them,but the results were promising.Good advice on the factory offerings, GJ
 
gj169 said:
Hey Supercub,I'm curious what powder you use for the 60 Partitions,I tried 3diffrent Hogdon powders and can't get a decent group from them.The hornady 60 sp shoot great with excellent groups.The 70 gr Speers also shoot well.I've only tried varget with them,but the results were promising.Good advice on the factory offerings, GJ
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I haven't tried the Noslers yet, but my Browning A-Bolt shoots 70 gr Speers into just about an inch using Varget.

I have a .223AI here with a 1/10" twist that I want to run the Noslers in when I get around to it.


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Otokiak said:
I say GO FOR IT ... but maybe you should listen to hero's like BIGREDD and others as they'll disagree and say go with LARGE CALIBRES such as 30-06 or more ... :p ;)

Otokiak ... :cool:
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA

p.s. we shoot tuktu(caribou) all the time with .223 ... even 12 foot plus nanuqs(polar bears) ... ;)
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You are pretty loose with the "hero" talk there Otokiak...:mad:
Have you been sticking your head down the seal holes again... methinks your brain is frozen :rolleyes:
 
Do you think if enough people talk themselves and others into using a 223 for deer eventually we'll start discussing the merits of the .223 as a viable moose catridge or maybe even the ultimate dangerous game cartridge. I agree with the statement of why even bother to consider it when there
are so many much better alternatives.
 
anyone else do it, not illeagal here we used to do it all the time..... just drill em in the head
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Headshot, neckshot ... all good! :D


You are pretty loose with the "hero" talk there Otokiak...
Have you been sticking your head down the seal holes again... methinks your brain is frozen
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Ok there mighty maqaiti ... ok ... ;)

Do you think if enough people talk themselves and others into using a 223 for deer eventually we'll start discussing the merits of the .223 as a viable moose catridge or maybe even the ultimate dangerous game cartridge. I agree with the statement of why even bother to consider it when there
are so many much better alternatives.
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Ok then all you mighty maqaiti's ... how about a .308 for Jiffydawg and his deer hunting ... better gents???:confused: :rolleyes:

Otokiak ... ;)
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA

p.s. BIGREDD, maqaiti means mighty hunter ... ;) Cheers partner ...
 
winchester makes a 64gr load specifically for deer....

.223 is fine for deer when used in its element and within its effective range and picking your shots....... before 1890 they used black powder for everything and it is a lot more weaker then a .223 will ever be.
 
joe-nwt said:
Before 5000BC we ate our meat raw because we didn't have fire.
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exactly..... with modern tools hunting is easier and easier, consider hunting with .223 rustic, having to pick your shot and stalking to witin 100-150 yds.

but frankly most animals are killed well under 100yds..... so the .223 is well within its range.
 
exactly...... take a big mouthful of raw deer, Wes. Let's see how rustic you can be.

If it was your only gun and you were hungry, go for it. But I would bet you have a gun that is more suitable, so how about you tell us why you still might choose the .223?
 
Westicle said:
before 1890 they used black powder for everything and it is a lot more weaker then a .223 will ever be.
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You seem to be confusing the calibre with the propellant after all you could load that .223 with BP.
but anyway I see you have no idea of the power some of the old blackpowder guns had. A bullet doesnt have to travel the speed of light when it weighs four or five hundred grains or more.
 
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