Desert Tech MDR faces partial delay and a price increase

Hopefully we get some reviews of the rifle in the next two months and find out how well they shoot. I hope the 18.6" barrel is also a walther.
 
Hopefully we get some reviews of the rifle in the next two months and find out how well they shoot. I hope the 18.6" barrel is also a walther.

You don't need to hope, I've emailed back and forth with them a couple times and confirmed that those are the barrels they are using.
Why do you want reviews in the next two months? We have at least two years till we have any chance of seeing one of these with an 18.6 inch barrel in Canada. I wouldn't be surprised if it was three years though.
 
My thought exactly, they probably won't settle for anything less accurate than 2 moa.
That is not much of a goal, Kel Tech's RFB is 1moa and opens up to 1.5 after 3 rounds as tested by myself. other forum members have attained the same accuracy.

If the MDR only gets 2 MOA, it wont be that popular
 
The RCMP can pretty much take as long as they want to classify a rifle and even if DT dropped off a sample it would be a restricted rifle. I spoke to an employee at DT and was told they won't be producing the 18.6" version for at least a year after they start full production of the rifle since they are going to fill all US orders first before considering any other options.
According to the DT dealers and their discussions with DT, The RCMP already have had a sample for some time now.
 
You don't need to hope, I've emailed back and forth with them a couple times and confirmed that those are the barrels they are using.
Why do you want reviews in the next two months? We have at least two years till we have any chance of seeing one of these with an 18.6 inch barrel in Canada. I wouldn't be surprised if it was three years though.

I could understand a manufacturer subbing out the barrels to Canada like so many prohibited pistols have over the years. I would like to see reviews soon so I can start obsessing over it:)

Will the rcmp need an 18.6" version to deem it NR or can they determine it to be NR with a 16" barrel with the proviso that they sell the NR with 18.6"?
 
Will the rcmp need an 18.6" version to deem it NR or can they determine it to be NR with a 16" barrel with the proviso that they sell the NR with 18.6"?
If the 16" version gets a restricted status due to barrel length, then the longer barrel will make it non restricted and just a formality to have the status changed like with the Bushmaster ACR, HK USC, etc which had no NR factory versions in the past
 
If the 16" version gets a restricted status due to barrel length, then the longer barrel will make it non restricted and just a formality to have the status changed like with the Bushmaster ACR, HK USC, etc which had no NR factory versions in the past

This is actually my opinion as well; get it into the RCMP ASAP and then even if they require a "sample" with the 18.6" barrel they will already have the FRT and it will just be a quick inspection (lol 3 months) to get the child FRT entry for it.

Then it could also be possible to get new NR barrels put on by guys like Herron Arms.
 
Well I am thinking that maybe just maybe building a great bolt action and building a great RELIABLE bulpup semi auto rifle might be really a different cup of tea. Unlike RA, kel-tec or Norinco , DTA have a stellar reputation building a really limited offering of firearms and they might be realizing the brand damage that could be done by releasing a subpar offering witch could explain the delays.

I hope so.

Sounds like your next rifle will be a Norinco if you're offended by a $4000 rifle of the quality that DT builds. What do you expect to pay for a rifle like this?
I've confirmed with DT that they will be using Lothar Walther barrels which if you know anything about rifles you'll know they are top notch and the barrel alone will be $500+ but probably closer to $1000. My DT SRS in 338L will shoot better than 1/2 moa when I do my part and while I don't expect a semi auto to match that I'm sure the MDR will be better than any other factory built non restricted rifle out there. I won't bother telling you how much my SRS cost because I don't want you to short circuit.
The price is high because of our crappy dollar and the idiotic import fees the governments keep increasing. If we lived in the US the price would be $2500 but from the sounds of it you wouldn't be happy with that either.
If you think a quality non restricted rifle can be built for less go ahead and build one, you'll be rich if you can do it and get it to market in Canada in the $1500 range.




Why do you think a bullpup isn't capable of accuracy or distance?
If the rifle has a quality barrel and is designed with accuracy in mind it would be very possible. Our current offerings were designed with battle rifle accuracy in mind and they deliver exactly that.

I don't understand why so many people think that just because a rifle costs over $2500 it must be a piece of junk if it can't shoot 1 moa groups. Accuracy and cost are not related, you are paying for engineering, R&D, materials, labour etc. If you want a quality rifle built in a country where they don't use child labor and crap materials and half ass'd engineering then you have to pay for it. A skilled firearms technician in a US factory isn't going to work for $8/hr so the price goes up, skilled and experienced engineers don't work for $25k a year so the price goes up.
Either accept the price or don't buy one, don't worry though, the retailers won't be able to import them fast enough to keep them on the shelves.




I think the mini 14 holds a couple world records for accuracy, largest grouping and least amount of damage to a barn door after 10 rounds fired if I recall correctly ;)

Well said, cr5.
 
I think the mini 14 holds a couple world records for accuracy, largest grouping and least amount of damage to a barn door after 10 rounds fired if I recall correctly ;)

My last mini14 which was a 580 series would shoot Hornady Varmint ammo into 3/4" with a 2.5-8x36...in the field, off an impromptu rest.
 
My last mini14 which was a 580 series would shoot Hornady Varmint ammo into 3/4" with a 2.5-8x36...in the field, off an impromptu rest.

Well I'm glad to hear the new ones are better than the old ranch rifle I used to own, that pos would barely keep 5 shots on paper at 100 yards off a solid rest. It was fun though, I'd have to warn everyone to my right up to 20ft away that they'd be getting hit by empty casings and that I was sorry in advance.
Selling it was a good day.

Great sig line :)
 
I have been looking at IRG and they have Bushmaster ACR DMR's coming the end of January $2099 USD. They will be approximately $2800 CDN. So how did the MDR go from $2500 USD to $4000 CDN?
 
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I have been looking at IRG and they have Bushmaster ACR DMR's coming the end of January $2099 USD. They will be approximately $2800 CDN. So how did the MDR go from $2500 USD to $4000 CDN?

Is that the price to your door? You need to do more than simply convert US to Canadian funds, you may want to contact them and ask for a quote.

It's called math.
$2500 US turns into $3300 Canadian at todays exchange, plus the local retailer will mark it up let's say 20% because no one does anything for nothing which makes it $3960 Canadian, plus GST brings it to $4160, plus your local provincial tax if you live in one that gouges you a little more. And we haven't even added the export/import/shipping fees yet.
Still wonder how $2500 turns into $4000? Everyone wants a piece of the pie.

Yes it does suck, unfortunately we either pay it or go without our new toy.
Maybe some day our dollar will climb up out of the hole it fell into and we'll be able to get new toys for a decent price again.
 
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Not sure if that's to the door or not but i would assume if they give you an appox price they would include mark up and import fee's so you can budget for it but who knows.
 
If the MDR is anything like the SRS-A1 the price will be MSRP+EXCH. My SRS is $5k US, $6500CDN so exch is 1.3 (vs $6600 by xe.com). Of course the SRS is not the brand spanking new toy.

IRG is the exception with free export/import, only catch obviously is they sell the product and for NOW they don't carry DT. $2500+$250 export+$50 (double shipping) = $2800x1.32=$3696 + ~$180GST + $45 shipping = $3925
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I have been looking at IRG and they have Bushmaster ACR DMR's coming the end of January $2099 USD. They will be approximately $2800 CDN. So how did the MDR go from $2500 USD to $4000 CDN?
 
$2500 is $US MSRP. The mfr don't give a rat's ass about our CDN issues.
Not sure if that's to the door or not but i would assume if they give you an appox price they would include mark up and import fee's so you can budget for it but who knows.
 
Well I'm glad to hear the new ones are better than the old ranch rifle I used to own, that pos would barely keep 5 shots on paper at 100 yards off a solid rest. It was fun though, I'd have to warn everyone to my right up to 20ft away that they'd be getting hit by empty casings and that I was sorry in advance.
Selling it was a good day.

Great sig line :)


Thanks, the new ones still spit cases 5 lanes over lol
 
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