Desperate for a solution...gun jamming

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I am trying to help out a friend with his .22. He wants to give it to his young son in a few weeks for his birthday. It is a Squires Bingham model 16. It is a clip fed semi auto scaled to look like an M16. It has a regular .22 clip with a larger bottom section to simulate the look of a M16 magazine as it exits the gun. Since he got it second-hand, it has never worked properly. Occassionally, if you're lucky, it will fire a few shells in a row, but more often than not, it will only fire the first round before it jams.
I have watched the chamber area carefully as I slowly #### the bolt to pick up the first shell and slowly push it forward into the chamber. The bolt picks up the shell and puts it in dead center of the chamber. There is no deflection at this point. Pull the trigger and it fires, but as the bolt goes forward again, the next shell jams before the bolt closes. The jammed shell is deformed beyond use.
I have noticed that as the bolt pushes the first shell forward, it seems like the bolt tries to drag the second shell, by friction, I assume, forward slightly as it sits atop the magazine. I cannot see what happens beyond this point because the bolt is closed and I have vapour locked trying to analyse the problem
Would it be possible that the shell that is dragged forward from underneath the bolt, is pushed forward to the position in the middle of the magazine that has no tabs holding it in the mag and is released from the mag as the first shell is being ejected and jamming the works. If so, could it be that the magazine spring is too weak to keep the shell in place as the bolt goes forward?
I would greatly appreciate any help with this. If I can take it apart, perhaps I could stretch the spring or even make a new one. I could use your help with this as well, as I don't know whats inside and wonder if anyone has seen or taken one apart.
I have attached a few links to pics of the mag. Thanks kindly!

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I have had those types of issues with my Mossberg 715T. I found it was mostly the ammo I was using. Semi auto needs more of a high velocity round so the bolt with cycle as it should. I have found the Peter's High Velocity ammo to be the best. It is made by Remington and the rounds are alittle slick so the move easily into the chamber. Give that a try.
 
Thank you all for your response. I have tried every shell available up here but to no avail. I thought the subsonic Remington shells, the hollow points, might not have enough "Umphhh" to work properly. The best I could find were the Winchester Super X. There were less jams with them, but still didn't stop the problem. I could find no magazines for this gun, let alone any spare springs. If I can't find anything soon, I may have to try taking it apart. I am concerned about this as it looks like the bottom appears to be tack welded, but I figure it's useless anyway and if it works out, nothing lost. I will continue to search for the mag and spring, but I was hoping one of you would have encountered this before and know the fix.
BTW...On the side of the mag is some stamped lettering "USE HIGH..." It goes into the "fake" section at that point, but I assume it says "USE HIGH VELOCITY AMMO".
 
Try and strech the spring it worked in the tapco sks mags...if not try to take it down and do a polish onbolt etc make it slippery in there somtimes helps keep us posted.cheers
 
I suspect you have a magazine issue. If the feed lips are spread a little toward the front, it lets subsequent rounds tilt upward at the nose, so when the bolt comes forward it hits them from the side, either deforming them or jamming them in front of the bolt. Also examine the top of the follower - with the mag empty, push the follower down a couple of times, and make sure nothing is dragging as it comes back up. If something drags at the rear of the follower, it will tip the rounds so they point up after the first one is gone...
 
Well, I managed to take the clip apart today. Basically, it looks like a regular long .22 mag that has a fake bottom pinned to it. I cleaned everything in solvent and put a 1" hard wood dowel under the coil spring and compressed the spring by that much. I also spread the feed lips slightly to keep the nose down and pinned it together with temp pins. I took it out for a test fire. It fired 4 consecutive rounds before the temp pins worked loose and it fell apart in my hands. Luckily, I found all the pieces and brought it home. It lost some capacity of course, but it will take 9 rounds and he never loads it with more that 6. I'm not saying I fixed the problem just yet, but I will try stretching the spring next and if
I can remember, I will take some pics and post them.Till then...
 
I have failed my mission. I pinned the mag together and took it out this morning. Obviously, the gun gods shone their light on me yesterday...but not today. Every shot was a misfire! I took some pliers with me and tried adjusting the tabs until it got to a point where I was afraid of snapping them off due to metal fatigue. I thought I was good at diagnosing such things, but I can not grasp this. I can not see the problem being the gun itself, as it does occasionally fire several rounds. It has to be the magazine. If I had any wits, I would be at the end of them now.:confused:

gunrunner100...you mentioned that you have mags, are they for the model 16, or the 20, as earlier mentioned. Either way, could you let me know what you charge for them. I'm not sure how this PM stuff works, but I can learn.
Again, thanks for all your responses.
 
I believe I should have given this info as well. When I ran dummy shells through the gun by hand, that is to say, I loaded the mag with several dummy shells, pulled the bolt handle back to let the first shell load and let it go forward on its own power without pulling the trigger, and repeating this for all the shells, there was no problem. Each one loaded and ejected without incident. You would think it would be the same when firing live shells.
 
"I could use your help with this as well, as I don't know whats inside and wonder if anyone has seen or taken one apart."

How clean is it?
 
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