Detachable magazines in hunting rifles...why?**Poll Added**
- Thread starter rem338win
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They haven't. It is not stated anywhere in the regs that you can't load your rifle before hunting hours.
It says you cannot hunt before legal time. You can be loaded, you just can't shoot any "game" animals.
Ease of in-out of a vehicle is probably the best advantage.
The points you make are valid but not all DBM's are noisy or have poor latching - e.g. Sako 85, Sauer 202 and the hybrid style like a Blaser R8. Yes, those are all pricey rifles!
By the same token some floor plates also rattle and have terrible releases!
The points you make are valid but not all DBM's are noisy or have poor latching - e.g. Sako 85, Sauer 202 and the hybrid style like a Blaser R8. Yes, those are all pricey rifles!
By the same token some floor plates also rattle and have terrible releases!
DM's are the way to go.
I borrowed a lever action while hunting with a friend, cool gun, but man did i get sick of it fast. A huge pain to clear and make safe. Made things such as getting in and out of the truck, cross a fence, climb tree stand, and just in general clear and make safe a pretty annoying ordeal that leaves the rest of the party waiting on me.
I only buy rifles with a DM now.
I borrowed a lever action while hunting with a friend, cool gun, but man did i get sick of it fast. A huge pain to clear and make safe. Made things such as getting in and out of the truck, cross a fence, climb tree stand, and just in general clear and make safe a pretty annoying ordeal that leaves the rest of the party waiting on me.
I only buy rifles with a DM now.
My detachable magazines aren't unsightly to me. Utility is beauty.
Mine don't rattle or make other noise.
Mine don't reduce the capacity.
Mine don't have poor latching systems
I don't use them for a quick load or reload. When hunting, they are most useful for a quick unload.
The only detach mag rifle for hunting is the last one I bought.
The BLR 81 in 358win.
I bought it for the chambering and the BLR was the bonus of it.
For the Zuki, it fits on the dash as I sometimes go for a burn with
the hounds in the back of Zuk.
This gal fits up on the dash so the hounds don't get to trample all
over it like the other lengthy ones.
I have the floor plate styles and to me it really doesn't matter one way
or the other. The detach mags make life a bit easier, quicker, but when I'm
out hunting, most of that is moot.
Lock the rig, load the rifle and go.
It's all good.
The BLR 81 in 358win.
I bought it for the chambering and the BLR was the bonus of it.
For the Zuki, it fits on the dash as I sometimes go for a burn with
the hounds in the back of Zuk.
This gal fits up on the dash so the hounds don't get to trample all
over it like the other lengthy ones.
I have the floor plate styles and to me it really doesn't matter one way
or the other. The detach mags make life a bit easier, quicker, but when I'm
out hunting, most of that is moot.
Lock the rig, load the rifle and go.
It's all good.
Captain Chaos
Member
- Location
- Northwest Territories
They are good for hunting when you are getting in and out of vehicles etc. That's really it. When your in the bush on extended trips they are a liability because if you loose it your buggered. Personally my jumper rifles have a mag, everything else doesn't.
Been there, it doesn't matter. I aint that lazy or something. I try to avoid "road hunting". You shoot more animals with your feet on the ground.
Its an aesthetic thing and your ammo is guaranteed to stay where you put it. My rifles feed proper, or they don't see the field. #### doesnt happen when you prepare for it.
So I can see some merit to the getting in and out stuff. But I started out on the prairies where we were in and out of the truck a lot, and magazines don't make you faster (I have proven that) and it takes few precious seconds to unload manually.
Magazines do get lost, been there, seen that, and floor plates only fail when the user does.
Magazines are unsightly on the X-bolt, Savages, and Remingtons to start, and the A-bolt setup is an abortion functionally.
I agree that the Sako and Sauer setups look great and are really unlosable.
Remington 700 DMs rattle, I have heard A-bolts and Savages rattle as well.
Some of the reasoning has been great, others straight up lame, wow.
And for the one over zealous fella, yah people make statements on the site all the time they won't buy a hunting rifle (i.e. Winchester Model 70's etc) because they don't have a DM model. You under a rock?
Magazines do get lost, been there, seen that, and floor plates only fail when the user does.
Magazines are unsightly on the X-bolt, Savages, and Remingtons to start, and the A-bolt setup is an abortion functionally.
I agree that the Sako and Sauer setups look great and are really unlosable.
Remington 700 DMs rattle, I have heard A-bolts and Savages rattle as well.
Some of the reasoning has been great, others straight up lame, wow.
And for the one over zealous fella, yah people make statements on the site all the time they won't buy a hunting rifle (i.e. Winchester Model 70's etc) because they don't have a DM model. You under a rock?
Beauty is very subjective. On the Rem DM, the only thing I can see different is the 2 little tabs on either side...other than that, it looks like a floor plate.
My 700 DM doesn't rattle the slightest bit.
Most common reason I always hear for DM's is, "Well, try to get your rifle emptied quick when the game warden's flagging you over!!! ..................Only a dummy wouldn't have a mag."
I prefer single shots and doubles, so that's never a problem.
I prefer single shots and doubles, so that's never a problem.
Magazines only get lost when the user fails to secure them properly. Anyone who can lose a magazine is perfectly capable of failing to secure a floorplate or screwing up loading/unloading a blind magazine.
longbranch*
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Victoria,BC.
Mags
Nothing wrong with mags. Used a DM 700 for near 20 years, but last several years I'm back to hinged floor-plated rifles.
(Hey, if anyone finds a DM with 7m/m mag cartridges in the Kakwa river please PM me).
Cheers
Geoff
Nothing wrong with mags. Used a DM 700 for near 20 years, but last several years I'm back to hinged floor-plated rifles.
(Hey, if anyone finds a DM with 7m/m mag cartridges in the Kakwa river please PM me).
Cheers
Geoff
Exactly. I hate guns without a clip
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
When you hunt by pushing bush, you may move locations, get in and out of a vehicle, as many as four times in a morning, and possibly six or seven over the course of a day. Under those conditions a blind mag is a PIA, as is a tube mag.
But if you're a load in the morning, and hunt 'till dusk type, the removable magazine rifle is a tad pointless.
I have and use both. I hunt both ways.
But if you're a load in the morning, and hunt 'till dusk type, the removable magazine rifle is a tad pointless.
I have and use both. I hunt both ways.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Mostly I prefer a hinged floorplate, on my bolt guns and hate a blind magazine. I don't want to have to take the rifle apart if/when I get a jam. Living up here, my rifles aren't loaded and unloaded as frequently as those hunting in the south so I have less interest in a DBM than I might otherwise. I don't really have anything against DBMs that are designed properly, and some rifles I think look better because of them. Rifles such as a Lee Enfield sporter, a Brno 680 Fox, and even the Ruger Gunsite Scout look good with their protruding magazines. I've hunted with a few DBM equipped rifles like Winchester 88s, Savage 99Cs and Remington 760s, but the first DBM rifle I had trouble with was a Remington 788. The magazine release was just too easy to hit when the rifle was carried at the balance. But there was certainly nothing wrong with the way the 788 cycled nor did it rattle. The Remington 700 DBMs leave me cold and I am mildly offended by the cost of some of the replacement magazines for Euro rifles. Provided it doesn't open under recoil, a hinged floor plate looks pretty good to me, but a modern bolt gun with a pair of magazines; one attached in the magazine well below the bolt and the other attached to the underside of the butt of the rifle, seems appealing.
Wow! This is great! 56 posts and only two called it a clip. Perhaps we are getting better.
That being said, I have both. For the reasons cited, I like both. That being said, it really doesn't bother me to use a blind magazine when hunting since I usually only put 2 rounds in it anyway. Unless I am pushing bush, I don't see the need. And as for road hunting...just because it is legal to road hunt, does not mean it is legal to shoot while still in the truck. I get out. Slamming one round into the blind mag can really suck for that while simultaneously getting out of the truck, and trying to keep an eye on the game.
Not a tube-fed lever either. I watched my father for years empty out his rifle every day, dropping them on the ground, deforming the bullet tips in the action. While he did this I removed the mag from my Lee Enfield, a cycled the bolt once, put the cartridge back in the mag. Done. Still watching Dad...okay, now we are done and can get in the truck.
That being said, I have both. For the reasons cited, I like both. That being said, it really doesn't bother me to use a blind magazine when hunting since I usually only put 2 rounds in it anyway. Unless I am pushing bush, I don't see the need. And as for road hunting...just because it is legal to road hunt, does not mean it is legal to shoot while still in the truck. I get out. Slamming one round into the blind mag can really suck for that while simultaneously getting out of the truck, and trying to keep an eye on the game.
Not a tube-fed lever either. I watched my father for years empty out his rifle every day, dropping them on the ground, deforming the bullet tips in the action. While he did this I removed the mag from my Lee Enfield, a cycled the bolt once, put the cartridge back in the mag. Done. Still watching Dad...okay, now we are done and can get in the truck.
Wow! This is great! 56 posts and only two called it a clip. Perhaps we are getting better.
I'm a southern yank by birth and we called them clips sorry I still do
And yes I know the difference.Magazines feed ammo into a firearm, clips hold ammo and are used to load magazines. Unlike you guys growing up we were allowed to put more than 5 rounds in our semi's and autos so actually used clips to fill the mags.
I find loading floorplate magazines clumsy & awkward. In winter it can be hard with gloves & too cold without gloves. I prefer to load without my gun in my hand. I just load a couple or a few magazines and pack them in my pocket or belt clips.
