Deuce and half restoration...interested?
- Thread starter Klunk
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caperbound
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- Location
- Nova Scotia
If anyone is looking for a deuce there are 2 presently for sale in Nova Scotia kijiji. One is $1500
stencollector
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- shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
I had one of the M135 deuces back in the 80s, not long after they had been released. Big, thirsty, and needed a class 3 license, I got rid of it and swore I would never buy another.
Flash forward to last year. I got my third artillery piece, and it looked ridiculous behind my 3/4 ton Dodge going down the trans-Canada. I made an offer to a guy on an MLVW project, but it was rejected. I left him with the offer in case he changed his mind. Instead, I purchased a very nice deuce project, still in it's original pre-camoflauge green, and with only 25,00 miles on the clock. Took a few weeks, and like yours, got it running. Purrs like a kitten. I paid around 3 for the truck, and with the brake parts, tires, tarp and bows, new exhaust, winch, etc likely have somewhere between 5-6K into it. Early this summer I get a call and it's the guy with the MLVW, project ready to sell. Yep, so I bought it too. Now have it running and just about done.
Military trucks are like Enfields....you just can't stop at one. I cannot even tell you how many military vehicles are out in the yard right now.....I did manage to part with 3 projects this summer but just picked up 3 larger projects to replace them. At least I maintained some balance this year.
Well that sounds like a challenge. Of course fair is fair. All I need from you is make, model, year and country of origin....wise guy.
NIIIIICE!!!!
The wheeled machine...a Staghound...?
So anyway...
The heating bill is killing me vut Ive been plugging along on the mechanicals...
But DAMM there was a lot wrong with this truck.
The cooling system was almost totally plugged with rust and scale and dead mice...as was the tranny (engine coolant is plumbed too the tranny...the whole system was completely clogged-which explains why the engine acted as if it was overheating the couple times I started it ....duhh)
And some doofus had disconnected and pinched off the oil line to the top end of the engine...!!!...no oil to rockers or valves...
anyway...heres some pics...
The heating bill is killing me vut Ive been plugging along on the mechanicals...
But DAMM there was a lot wrong with this truck.
The cooling system was almost totally plugged with rust and scale and dead mice...as was the tranny (engine coolant is plumbed too the tranny...the whole system was completely clogged-which explains why the engine acted as if it was overheating the couple times I started it ....duhh)
And some doofus had disconnected and pinched off the oil line to the top end of the engine...!!!...no oil to rockers or valves...
anyway...heres some pics...
MauserMike
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- SW Ontario
Cool thread. I've always wanted a Kubelwagen, I wonder what I'd been in for one of those?
stencollector
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
Is the exhaust manifold cracked? That was one of the jobs I remember doing again and again and again on these trucks, along with wheel cylinders. Oh, and wheel seals, and diffs, and transmissions, and valves.
The 302 is actually a nice running engine, It will purr at 350 rpm.
The 302 is actually a nice running engine, It will purr at 350 rpm.
Big bucks...its German...Have you seen the price of a K98 lately?
A VW Schwimwagen goes for in excess of $100,000
Of course the manifold was cracked...I had it partially welded and partially brazed-should last for....about....I think I just heard it crack again...
A VW Schwimwagen goes for in excess of $100,000
Yeah the factories don,t make them anymore, even original schwimmer parts have skyrocketed in price. Kettenkrads same thing cost wise. You have to remember that two things are driving the rarity of German vehicles 1. Numbers made, 53,000 kubels Vs 650,000 jeeps, 8,500 schwimmwagens vs 12,000 GPAs, and Ketts are in a class all there own, nothing beats a one ton, 70 year old German Army tracked motorcycle for just plain weird. 2. rememeber the Germans sent LOTS of stuff eastward and it never came back to Germany or central Europe. Anyways I took a quick look see at whats available kubel wise and not that many on the market right now for some reason, a few schwimmers out there at the usual prices to be expected.
Here is one on Milweb it needs a good restoration and looks like it had doors cut into it post war (a common modification) factor in the shipping and what all is there and whats not and the money meter is running at high speed/overdrive.
http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/large_image.php?ad=71283&cat=2
Yeah the factories don,t make them anymore, even original schwimmer parts have skyrocketed in price. Kettenkrads same thing cost wise. You have to remember that two things are driving the rarity of German vehicles 1. Numbers made, 53,000 kubels Vs 650,000 jeeps, 8,500 schwimmwagens vs 12,000 GPAs, and Ketts are in a class all there own, nothing beats a one ton, 70 year old German Army tracked motorcycle for just plain weird. 2. rememeber the Germans sent LOTS of stuff eastward and it never came back to Germany or central Europe. Anyways I took a quick look see at whats available kubel wise and not that many on the market right now for some reason, a few schwimmers out there at the usual prices to be expected.
Here is one on Milweb it needs a good restoration and looks like it had doors cut into it post war (a common modification) factor in the shipping and what all is there and whats not and the money meter is running at high speed/overdrive.
http://www.milweb.net/classifieds/large_image.php?ad=71283&cat=2
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Very cool project. I had the same truck a 1956 6x6 m135 with super singles 1100x20's. The tranny worked good for a few miles then lost 3rd and 4th. After it had been sitting for over 15 years.
The fuel tank was half full and totally rust caked and full of sour gasoline. I had to remove the back of the tank and cut a baffle in the middle out to get access then fill the tank with water and acid nurmerous times to eat all the rust then once it was clean welded it back up and had a rad shop do an epoxy coating. I also had to rebuilt the fuel pump. The fuel pump is very robust and is actually easy to rebuild.
The transmission has a lot of aluminum parts mixed in with steel ones. If the truck sits for a long period of time the tranny can cease up. I never took mine apart but if your doing a restoration I'm sure you will want to rebuild the transmission. I hear they were very tough and could take a lot of punishment. Memphis Equipment in the states has a lot of parts and I bet a rebuild kit for the tranny wouldn't be very much if nothing is grenaded inside.
Don't forget to oil the air compressor and add brake fluid to the brakes. The tranny pan is heavy as hell I did the same thing you did. I hear its easy to take the tranny out through the cab but if you have the whole front end off you can take the whole powertrain out in tacked.
I was looking at some GM strait 6 engines in older pick up trucks and a lot of the parts look the same so id definitely cross reference and see what's compatible.
The fuel tank was half full and totally rust caked and full of sour gasoline. I had to remove the back of the tank and cut a baffle in the middle out to get access then fill the tank with water and acid nurmerous times to eat all the rust then once it was clean welded it back up and had a rad shop do an epoxy coating. I also had to rebuilt the fuel pump. The fuel pump is very robust and is actually easy to rebuild.
The transmission has a lot of aluminum parts mixed in with steel ones. If the truck sits for a long period of time the tranny can cease up. I never took mine apart but if your doing a restoration I'm sure you will want to rebuild the transmission. I hear they were very tough and could take a lot of punishment. Memphis Equipment in the states has a lot of parts and I bet a rebuild kit for the tranny wouldn't be very much if nothing is grenaded inside.
Don't forget to oil the air compressor and add brake fluid to the brakes. The tranny pan is heavy as hell I did the same thing you did. I hear its easy to take the tranny out through the cab but if you have the whole front end off you can take the whole powertrain out in tacked.
I was looking at some GM strait 6 engines in older pick up trucks and a lot of the parts look the same so id definitely cross reference and see what's compatible.
That old fracking thing. I once co-drove one from Wainwright to Calgary. The wipers gave out half way and I sat over the driver manually turning his wiper in a driving rain for 2 hours. Fracking crap truck! Waincon 82!
- Location
- West coast of Vancouver Island
Is that a quad?
stencollector
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
It will be a HUP or one of it's variants (ambulance, personal or workshop lorry. )
LOL this thread is hilarious,
I will say that Klunk definitely has the mechanical ability required. This truck is awesome, I am happy to hear that he was able to get the exhaust patched up. But last I heard,,,,,,,, Mr. Klunk also had a kitchen to redo this winter too..............
I will say that Klunk definitely has the mechanical ability required. This truck is awesome, I am happy to hear that he was able to get the exhaust patched up. But last I heard,,,,,,,, Mr. Klunk also had a kitchen to redo this winter too..............
