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I wouldn't stress too much there's always variance with things when you get them "in the wild" including black, green and even tan issued C8 furniture.

The picture of the MP truck posted above is as standard as you'll get and the diagram of the C7A2 is also fairly standard. The Cadex grip is also hit or miss

derrob7 said:
Thanks guys for the wealth of info.

So am I correct in thinking the green furniture, ambi-charging handle, ambi-safety, ambi-mag release and tri-ad all came with the C7A2?

Just realized where I got my painted hand guard info. Looks like I read it off of the C7/C8 clone thread while I was doing some research.
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derrob7 said:
Thanks guys for the wealth of info.

So am I correct in thinking the green furniture, ambi-charging handle, ambi-safety, ambi-mag release and tri-ad all came with the C7A2?

Just realized where I got my painted hand guard info. Looks like I read it off of the C7/C8 clone thread while I was doing some research.
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You are correct... they all came with the C7A2 upgrade.

Some of the C8A3 hand guards were painted green (not available in green at the time?) so that part is correct but this did not apply to the C7. The only green butt stocks I've seen are some airsoft rifles currently available. Apparently they didn't do their homework when they made their replicas.

Oh, and there was some tan painted furniture available (apparently in limited numbers) in Afghanistan but I only saw butt stocks, pistol grips and C8 hand guards. No idea if tan C7 hand guards were also made available.
 
Just finished swapping black plastic for green and about to add the triad, Norgon, latch, etc.

For the guys making a dead-ringer for a C7A2, what did you use for an end plate/sling attachment? I seem to recall the work guns had a left side rectangle instead of the ambi triangles found on the SA20.
 
Haha, there are a few things I didnt bother going for...the claw amd thr near useless slingplate, but I heard guys buying something that resembled it off Brownells?
 
That's the only part I'm missing on mine. I'll probably leave mine as is in hopes CC will find a bin of them somewhere. Don't want to bother messing with the staking unless I have a replacement part ready.

VLTOR makes something similar, but not the same obviously.

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j-man said:
Just finished swapping black plastic for green and about to add the triad, Norgon, latch, etc.

For the guys making a dead-ringer for a C7A2, what did you use for an end plate/sling attachment? I seem to recall the work guns had a left side rectangle instead of the ambi triangles found on the SA20.
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j-man said:
I seem to recall the work guns had a left side rectangle instead of the ambi triangles found on the SA20.
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Yup but the triangles on both sides are the new receiver end plates from Colt Canada. There are some issued rifles with them in some places where they were tested, etc. Other CF members from different areas can add to this.

All the ambidextrous upgrades were indeed introduced with the mid-life upgrade that became the C7A2. The horrible Cadex folding grips were bought later but not everybody puts them on. I always take it off and put it back on before handing in my rifle at the QM. Some QMs just don't even bother.

Early C8A3 handguards were indeed painted green and are a pain in the butt to take off and put back on for some people. New ones are actually green, though. There is also actual tan furniture available to troops and they have associated Nato Stock Numbers in the system. You can also order appropriate desert tan/sand/brown/black paint, also with their own NSNs, through the system. They come with a can of liquid spray that makes the camo paint just melt off your rifle so it's very easy to camo up your rifle and then easily remove the paint when back in country before CSMs have heart attacks after seeing painted rifles in their QMs.
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
The horrible Cadex folding grips were bought later but not everybody puts them on. I always take it off and put it back on before handing in my rifle at the QM. Some QMs just don't even bother.
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I'm curious why you feel this way; I just purchased one and I'm picking it up from the post office today. What about it don't you and other folks like?
 
They are cheap and break often. The fact that you have to screw on a small section of rail through the handguard and then install a grip that folds adds something like an inch and a half of uncomfortable space for your fingers and hand at the top of the grip. I put half my hand on the handguard and half on the grip, like a handstop, and it's garbage but that's on me because of my shooting technique. Holding the grip low like you're supposed to because of the rail and rotating parts up there makes a wobbly upper to lower fitment, already shaky as hell handguards on slip rings, etc., so unstable that it's complete crap to actually hold steady and shoot. When holding the grip you can literally twist the entire upper and handguards almost 30 degrees in each direction. It feels like I'm holding a very cheap toy.

That and the fact that they are something like $80 when you can buy solid and good aluminum vertical grips from great companies for half the price is just laughable but hey, buy Canadian! (Like our new wonderful zippered boots that people destroyed by just putting their feet in or trying to lace them the very first time they tried them on.)

Here I am complaining again! Jesus.
 
Jacobean said:
I'm curious why you feel this way; I just purchased one and I'm picking it up from the post office today. What about it don't you and other folks like?
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It is a POS. easy to break and some loose in the folding mech, probably because it is cheap plastic. I know guys that only kept the base and removed the folding part to use it as a hand stop.
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
Yup but the triangles on both sides are the new receiver end plates from Colt Canada. There are some issued rifles with them in some places where they were tested, etc. Other CF members from different areas can add to this.

All the ambidextrous upgrades were indeed introduced with the mid-life upgrade that became the C7A2. The horrible Cadex folding grips were bought later but not everybody puts them on. I always take it off and put it back on before handing in my rifle at the QM. Some QMs just don't even bother.

Early C8A3 handguards were indeed painted green and are a pain in the butt to take off and put back on for some people. New ones are actually green, though. There is also actual tan furniture available to troops and they have associated Nato Stock Numbers in the system. You can also order appropriate desert tan/sand/brown/black paint, also with their own NSNs, through the system. They come with a can of liquid spray that makes the camo paint just melt off your rifle so it's very easy to camo up your rifle and then easily remove the paint when back in country before CSMs have heart attacks after seeing painted rifles in their QMs.
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The tan furniture is just painted black furniture.
 
The Joe-Man said:
If you rub a little bit of oil on your SA20 handguard by the D-ring it will turn the same colour green as the rest of it and you won't have that bright ring at the base. For what it's worth, if you care about that sort of thing.
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I used a black sharpie on the handguard ring base to blend in with the delta ring. Cosmetic, I know, but...
 
-[Crosshair]- said:
They are cheap and break often. The fact that you have to screw on a small section of rail through the handguard and then install a grip that folds adds something like an inch and a half of uncomfortable space for your fingers and hand at the top of the grip. I put half my hand on the handguard and half on the grip, like a handstop, and it's garbage but that's on me because of my shooting technique. Holding the grip low like you're supposed to because of the rail and rotating parts up there makes a wobbly upper to lower fitment, already shaky as hell handguards on slip rings, etc., so unstable that it's complete crap to actually hold steady and shoot. When holding the grip you can literally twist the entire upper and handguards almost 30 degrees in each direction. It feels like I'm holding a very cheap toy.

That and the fact that they are something like $80 when you can buy solid and good aluminum vertical grips from great companies for half the price is just laughable but hey, buy Canadian! (Like our new wonderful zippered boots that people destroyed by just putting their feet in or trying to lace them the very first time they tried them on.)

Here I am complaining again! Jesus.
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I think it depends on what you are installing it in. From the sounds of it you installed it on the round half and half hand guards. I just installed mine on my IUR with no extra add on needed. Flat head tightened and the thing is solid. I can see, like CZ85Combat said that it may be a bit loose in the folding mech (mine isnt but maybe after time).

But installed on an IUR they're solid and not shifting anywhere. Plus I don't know where you are seeing $80. One Shot Tactical has them for $50 :S .
 
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