Difference between a savage and a tikka barrel
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I only posted that to show how unfair your comparison is, If you compare your heavy barrel savage to it's equal in a tikka you would not be singing the same tune.
Took the tikka shooting today. I cleaned the barrel down to bare steel at home as you can see from the picture I posted in the OP.
First shot at 110 yards by itself and then the next 3 stacked in a nice group. First 4 shots.
Next 3 at 220 yards.
I'm just using some old Winchester Ranger ammo with 168gr hpbt to get the brass. Can't complain though, gun shoots!
Well boys and girls, as the old saying goes "the bull$hyt stops, when the flag drops"
So far in the precission rifle forum in the sticky "My varmint rifle shoots 3/4's all day long", there are 3 savages, 2 tikkas, and one rem. that have completed the challenge with pictures for proof.....talk is cheap and showing a close up pic of 3 bullet holes means absolutely zero.
Have fun!
So far in the precission rifle forum in the sticky "My varmint rifle shoots 3/4's all day long", there are 3 savages, 2 tikkas, and one rem. that have completed the challenge with pictures for proof.....talk is cheap and showing a close up pic of 3 bullet holes means absolutely zero.
Have fun!
I own two Savage rifles and they are both very accurate. While the barrel isn't the smoothest, it sure doesn't seem to have any negative effect on their accuracy. They are both shooters. These 7 shots are from my Stevens 200 at a steel plate at 300 yards. Very mild steel of course.
Just had to weigh in on this. I own a variety of hunting rifles, a 700 in 7 mag, a Win 70 classic in 7 mag, a custom Ruger in 7X57, a custom savage in 280, an old savage in 308, a win 94, a savage 99 in 300, a custom zastava in 30.06, a Marlin Xl7 in 30.06, and 2 Browning Medallions, 1 in 30.06 and the other in 280. I also own a savage tactical in 223 for varmint shooting. The most accurate is the 700, and it cost me $400 used several years ago. The least accurates is the Zastava, which was just under $3000 all told. Everything else is in between, accuracy wise. The rifle I enjoy the most is the Browning in 280. It is quite accurate and very pleasant to carry and shoot. the old Savage in 308 is a good shooter as well and also a nice carry gun. My point is that Savages, like all my rifles, are tools and they all work well and shoot well enough to kill whaterver I'm aiming at. I can afford to buy any rifle I want but have avoided buying high end factory stuff like the Coopers and Kimbers because for the same money I can have a custom rifle made to my exact specifications, using whatever action I choose. People who look down their noses at the folks who shoot Savages, Marlins, Mossburgs, etc. give me a giant pain.
I don't think people are looking down their noses at savage owners or users, more like looking down on the "tool". Think of it as the difference between a Milwaukee 1/2" drill and a King Canada drill, they both will drill a hole, but there is a huge difference in quality, value, resale, and dependability.
Some of us prefer quality equipment over those that aren't made to a price point. It's not that big of a deal really. What I have noticed though is that whenever someone states their distaste for a certain brand or make, or points out flaws or shortcomings in the brand or make, those that own that brand or make insult the person that dislikes said brand or make. It's all silly and there is no need for anyone to feel jilted, it's just opinions on the Internet!!
Some of us prefer quality equipment over those that aren't made to a price point. It's not that big of a deal really. What I have noticed though is that whenever someone states their distaste for a certain brand or make, or points out flaws or shortcomings in the brand or make, those that own that brand or make insult the person that dislikes said brand or make. It's all silly and there is no need for anyone to feel jilted, it's just opinions on the Internet!!
bearkilr
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Savage owners are notorious for adamantly exclaiming that their $400 rifle is better in all respects than one costing triple or more. You can criticize pretty much any make, but say something negative about a Savage and all the foot stompers come out of the woodwork.
It's a CGN hate crime to criticize Savage!
I would like to point out that this wasn't a picture of a $400 savage. That barrel was on a $1000 rifle and the tikka costs the same money. I don't look down at people that shoot cheap guns at all, I have some myself, I look down at the QC savage has in place to let a barrel like that slide on a LONG RANGE PRECISION rifle that costs $1000. I don't care if a $300 savage has a barrel like that, I don't expect better, and if it puts 3 into 1.5" or less at 100 it's good enough for its intended use.
Kman I wasn't talking about you, heck you bought a Savage didn't you? But there are any number of supposed gun nutz on this board that obviously think that if you don't own a high end rifle you ain't s**t, and that attitude really bothers me, doesn't it bother you?
Then there is the inexpensive rifle crowd that has to mock those that appreciate more expensive firearms...it's a sad and pathetic two way street. Shoot and have fun and don't care what others think...life is so much more fun that way.
I own two Savage rifles and they are both very accurate. While the barrel isn't the smoothest, it sure doesn't seem to have any negative effect on their accuracy. They are both shooters. These 7 shots are from my Stevens 200 at a steel plate at 300 yards. Very mild steel of course.
Good shooting! Have you done any mods to your Stevens 200 to achieve this accuracy?
Thanks Alberta boy. You have me figured out. Now I know.
I was not really comparing anything - merely stating my observations. The OP's original post was in reference to the manufacturing practice between the Tikka and Savage (smooth vs serrated). I pointed out that my Savage consistently has higher points than my son's Tikka. Target - points. In competition, total points is where it's at. I recently participated in a 303 Enfield competition - any Enfield - with different categories. The ranking was determined by - you guessed it - total scores - or points if you will. If a heavy barreled Tikka shoots tighter - that's cool.
The true tale of the tape is not talking about it with three holes in targets... it is about shooting prone/sitting/standing (with a rest/bi-pod - or not), 10 shots at 100 yards and the RO issuing permission for the line to commence firing. Use whatever brand of bolt action rifle or barrel configuration you wish. Now shoot 4 to 5 rounds and tally the score. We will have a winner and a pattern of ranking - maybe the result of brand name and/or manufacturing technique. Maybe not. Simply writing or speculating about how great a particular rifle or manufacturer without direct comparison is nothing more than thought. Let's put it to a test - Bragging rights only. I'm up for it - how about anybody else?
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My only experience with Savages are my two Stevens 200's that honestly shot .75 or better after I adjusted the triggers to about half the weight of the factory setting.
I have no idea what the bores look like under magnification and I couldn't care less.
I have no idea what the bores look like under magnification and I couldn't care less.
You can find bad crowns and factory screw ups on any brand of Rifle. I own Savages and Tikka's etc. and honestly they shoot well. See a bit more copper fouling on the Savage but so what.
Last problem gun I saw was an $1100 Remington 223 at the range. Think it was 3 inch groups at 100 yards. We took a close look at the fellows rifle and there was a very noticeable crown flaw....
So there you have it.
Flip side, my nephews cheap savage 204r with a crappy scope package shoots .75 at 100 yards with 32 grain factory ammo. Yes the bolt is not smooth but the darn thing shot well right out the box.
I have seen the marks on rifling before but as others have said, never noticed a problem with accuracy because of it. The crown damage is not acceptable.
My two cents.
Last problem gun I saw was an $1100 Remington 223 at the range. Think it was 3 inch groups at 100 yards. We took a close look at the fellows rifle and there was a very noticeable crown flaw....
So there you have it.
Flip side, my nephews cheap savage 204r with a crappy scope package shoots .75 at 100 yards with 32 grain factory ammo. Yes the bolt is not smooth but the darn thing shot well right out the box.
I have seen the marks on rifling before but as others have said, never noticed a problem with accuracy because of it. The crown damage is not acceptable.
My two cents.
