Discussion thread - 2024 - 100 yard .22LR challenge

I'm working on gearing up an Apeture submission. Based on my last 4 F class 100 yard targets. I avg 1.63" at 100. Though that's only 5 rd each vs 10.

Figure I can take my 8inch bull targets, punch out the center and super impose them over the challenge target bull. But do that for all 3 targets.

I tried a central reference point for 1/2" challenge apetures and dialing my apeture to walk my targets over. But did not do as good as if I just aimed at 5 targets. So figure that be the same at 100.
 
A couple weeks ago someone on an American forum, SH I think, a fellow posted that he read about a claim someone made about shooting at 100 yards. The claim was that it was possible to shoot .5 MOA ten shot groups with a .22LR at 100 the proverbial all day long.

That would be quite a feat. It's tough enough to shoot many consecutive 1 MOA ten shot groups with .22LR at 100, with .5 MOA being special for their rarity.

This morning's results were satisfying but show that great results can be elusive. It's fair to say that a shooter will probably have to shoot a lot of targets to get one that's really good, even when there are multiple sub-1 MOA groups.



 
On another note, I recall that when PCP (Pre-Charged Pneumatic) air rifles came out a few decades ago, many traditional air rifle shooters referred to those who tried them as having gone to the Dark Side. This was a wry play on the Dark Side of The Force in Star Wars.

I've been a traditional rifle shooter using rifles such as Anschutz, never having seen, let alone shot, one of the newer rifles designed for accurate shooting such as Vudoo models. I'm dipping my toe into the Dark Side and will be trying out a Vudoo V22S single shot in the near future.
 
grauhanen said:
A couple weeks ago someone on an American forum, SH I think, a fellow posted that he read about a claim someone made about shooting at 100 yards. The claim was that it was possible to shoot .5 MOA ten shot groups with a .22LR at 100 the proverbial all day long.

That would be quite a feat. It's tough enough to shoot many consecutive 1 MOA ten shot groups with .22LR at 100, with .5 MOA being special for their rarity.

This morning's results were satisfying but show that great results can be elusive. It's fair to say that a shooter will probably have to shoot a lot of targets to get one that's really good, even when there are multiple sub-1 MOA groups.



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Very Impressive.
 
grauhanen said:
On another note, I recall that when PCP (Pre-Charged Pneumatic) air rifles came out a few decades ago, many traditional air rifle shooters referred to those who tried them as having gone to the Dark Side. This was a wry play on the Dark Side of The Force in Star Wars.

I've been a traditional rifle shooter using rifles such as Anschutz, never having seen, let alone shot, one of the newer rifles designed for accurate shooting such as Vudoo models. I'm dipping my toe into the Dark Side and will be trying out a Vudoo V22S single shot in the near future.
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I'm sure you will enjoy shooting the Vudoo.:)
 
grauhanen said:
On another note, I recall that when PCP (Pre-Charged Pneumatic) air rifles came out a few decades ago, many traditional air rifle shooters referred to those who tried them as having gone to the Dark Side. This was a wry play on the Dark Side of The Force in Star Wars.

I've been a traditional rifle shooter using rifles such as Anschutz, never having seen, let alone shot, one of the newer rifles designed for accurate shooting such as Vudoo models. I'm dipping my toe into the Dark Side and will be trying out a Vudoo V22S single shot in the near future.
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I hope you will enjoy the vudoo
 
Different rifle and two different lots of ammo today. It's not the Vudoo as I'm waiting for its scope, rings, and bore guide. I'm looking forward to trying it out.

I post the following to illustrate especially to .22LR shooters who may be new to 100 yard shooting that good results may require a lot of shooting.

Even with a very good quality rifle and top tier ammo, it's not easy to get consistent results or to get many consecutive good groups at 100. There's so much that can affect results, including the wind conditions and ammo variation. While excellent wind flag reading or shooting in the calmest of conditions can help make wind conditions somewhat manageable, the variation that comes with virtually every lot of match ammo makes that component an unpredictable challenge.

I have wind flags in use but don't read them well enough to use them to satisfactorily overcome wind or air movement between me and the target. Today was no different. It was mostly calm this morning, but at times air movement made itself obvious on target.

At other times, unexpected ammo performance was the cause of a few colourful words. Because it's not possible to predict the unexpected there's nothing that can be done about it. Better ammo is a solution, but a shooter can only use what he has on hand or can get.

I want to urge all shooters who may be interested in trying .22LR at 100 yards to get out and give it a go. This is not a competition. It's an individual challenge. Post valid entries in the Challenge thread and try to improve on them.



 
Glenn, your obviously a highly skilled shooter with more knowledge about Annies than anyone I know or have read about. You obviously have seen and read about the bigger better faster stronger BS from Mercans, Not all, but many are prone to stories. When I raced the saying was WHEN THE GATE DROPS THE BS STOPS. PS I have boxes of trophies and medals from District three in the USA to prove I had it when the gate dropped.
 
Thanks for the kind words.

When it comes to ammo, different lots of the same kind can shoot differently. It can be related to the rifle, but it's worth remembering that many lots of match ammo have variation within a lot. That is to say, lots may not be uniform in performance from one box to the next. Of course it's very difficult to quantify the variation, to be able to determine how much variation there may be in a lot. When shooting outdoors the conditions are rarely exactly alike.

Below is the same ammo used yesterday but with a different rifle, the results of which haven't been previously shown in this thread.

The first three targets were with the same lot of Midas + used on the first three targets shown yesterday. Same ammo as used yesterday for the second set of three targets. It's hard to assess conditions accurately, but on both mornings it was calm during the first three targets with a few breezes picking up from time to time on the second set of three.

The question that has me puzzled for lack of an answer is three-fold. Does this rifle shoot the first lot better? Were today's two boxes of the same lot more consistent? Were the conditions unequal? Perhaps a combination of some or all of these.

Anyway, enough of my results. Shooters with questions or comments about the general topic of .22LR at 100 are encouraged to post.



 
Two days ago, on Friday, I finally got the scope I ordered on July 4 for the Vudoo V22S. I sighted it in at 50 yards on Saturday but it was quite windy. This morning was a little calmer, although it got breezier by the hour.

The Vudoo shoots. The caveat is that, as with any rimfire rifle, there are two basic requirements, without which results can be less than desirable. One is consistent ammo. The other is either excellent ability to read wind flags or in the absence of that, very calm conditions. The effect of the changing wind is seen especially on the last three targets.



 
Grauhanen; Can you send me a PDF of that target, please?
If my shoulder heals, I would love to try this 100M challenge. Dave.
 
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Happy to see youve joined the Dark Side Glenn,team Vudoo. Just wait till youve fired a few hundred more and that barrel starts to come into its own. Seems to be a dandy rite from the get go.
 
Longstud said:
Happy to see youve joined the Dark Side Glenn,team Vudoo. Just wait till youve fired a few hundred more and that barrel starts to come into its own. Seems to be a dandy rite from the get go.
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Thanks. The Dark Side is not bad. The rifle I now have wasn't bought new, but I don't think it's seen a great deal of use. I learned that a new one has what a dealer says is a 3 - 4 month wait (which could easily be more).

On the last target I shot yesterday, I had this nice group. If only more rounds were this well behaved.

 
grauhanen said:
Thanks. The Dark Side is not bad. The rifle I now have wasn't bought new, but I don't think it's seen a great deal of use. I learned that a new one has what a dealer says is a 3 - 4 month wait (which could easily be more).

On the last target I shot yesterday, I had this nice group. If only more rounds were this well behaved.

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Impressive.
 
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grauhanen said:
Thanks. The Dark Side is not bad. The rifle I now have wasn't bought new, but I don't think it's seen a great deal of use. I learned that a new one has what a dealer says is a 3 - 4 month wait (which could easily be more).

On the last target I shot yesterday, I had this nice group. If only more rounds were this well behaved.

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A great gun removes one variable knowing it has the potential if fed the proper diet. As many are well aware the diet can easily change within a brick or even a box. All the Vudoos Ive owned or shot have been very fine rimfires(Other than my first that was defective and replaced by Insight Arms,Gottah love a business like this). Would it have come from a member on here perhaps? Just a stab in the dark, Gillis perhaps or the one he previously owned. Anyway Im happy your having success with it. Cheers. Im going to send you a PM for the Pdf of the target so I can have Staples print me a bunch. Thanks in advance
 
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