Disengage saftey and gun fires???

Not a Remmy but my bubbaed M38 Swedish Mauser cam with one of those after market parker hale wing safetys.

It would act like a trigger and also let the bolt fall out while walking a field.

At a gunshow I found an original military safety for these rifles and made it all better, you just can' t beat the original engineering on these rifles.
 
This is why I have had the original safety on both of my Remingtons chenged to winchester-style Gentry 3 position safeties. This happened to me once; it was repeatable, and it doesn't seem to matter the year of manufacture.
Mike
 
Funny that you bring this up, but I saw a show last night about this very same problem. It seems that the guy who designed the model 700 action (actually 721/722, his name is Walker) found the problem,told Remington and they basically won't admit there is a problem because of the cost to repair so many guns. Seems it's a n issue with the disconnector. Sorry but I don't remember what show it was, but it was on cable and they seem to re-air shows alot . Maybe you can Google this issue.

Walt
 
robertf said:
It's all over the news right now.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39740539/Deaths_Injuries_and_Lawsuits_Raise_Questions_about_Popular_Gun_s_Safety

http://www.uticaod.com/topstories/x2074061970/CNBC-to-air-investigation-into-safety-issues-at-Remington-Arms
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They include the death in 2000 of nine-year-old Gus Barber of Manhattan, Montana, who was killed on a family hunting trip when his mother’s Remington 700 went off as she was unloading it. Barbara Barber has said she is certain her hand was nowhere near the trigger. Her husband Rich Barber, who witnessed the accident, learned within days about similar reported incidents involving the 700.

“I went to the funeral home and looked Gus right square in the eye and I said, ‘Son, it ends here and now’,” Barber said. He would devote the next ten years to finding answers about what caused his son’s death, and is sharing much of his findings for the first time.
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I believe the obvious cause is lack of muzzle control with the mechanical failure being secondary to that tragedy. Seriously who has anyone let alone their nine year old in front of the muzzle of ones rifle?
 
the main point is that she pointed the gun in a fairly safe direction which was towards the ground and towards the camper. the boy ran underor beside the other side of the camper.

I'm not saying that it was perfect safe direction but I've been around a lot of people and not a single person I know has ever been 100% perfect so don't think anyone is.

the issue is that its a point on safety checks in general (not just for 700 owners) and the history of what Remington has done with there products.

yeah I knew it was an ancient thread and there was no resolve to the question so I answered for other people who search in the future
 
As I mentioned on another thread, that seems to be full of guys that have Remington pyjamas, curtains, bedding, etc.... I've encountered the same problem on several rifles, all 700's of mixed vintages. A common cause is using "3-in-1" or Outers gun oil. It gets into the trigger mechanism and turns to varnish, gumming up the works. A complete tear down and cleaning of the trigger assembly took care of that problem.

Another problem that can crop up with the 700, as mentioned a few posts back, if the rear stock bolt isn't tight it can cause trigger problems. Also, many of the 700's I've handled would release the sear if you pulled the trigger with the safety off. Release the safety, "boom!" This was due to sloppy workmanship, I believe.

On the other thread, the green guys were all; "Shouldn't use 3-in-1, muzzle control, blablabla" but they lose sight of the fact that Remington marketed the 700 as an inexpensive hunting rifle, not something that only gunsmiths would buy. Average hunters lube their rifles with 3-in-1, motor oil, or even cooking oil. (!) The average hunter wouldn't even attempt to adjust the trigger on their rifle, and of all the ones I've worked on, every one still had varnish covering the adjustment screws. With one exception, the fellow that tried to clean his 700 trigger and gave me the parts in a box!
 
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