Disgusting Hunting Video on Youtube

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Originally Posted by AKD View Post
Put it this way new hunter, if u shoot a deer at 50y and it drops but is still kicking around feel free to put one in the head. The guys in the video did nothing un-ethical other than jump around.

ShootSavage said:
You have to be joking!!! DID NOTHING WRONG!!, you mean to say you don't see anything wrong with this animal suffering while his buddy gets his camera out and starts recording before he walks over about fifty feet to finish the deer off, not to mention posting the mess on youtube for the world to see

The point is not that he shot the deer in the head, the point is he waited and let the animal suffer for no one knows how long for his buddy to get his video camera out and start recording before he even made his way to the deer to put that finishing shot in the head, the deer should have been finished off right away and get his pictures after, the guy is a disgrace to the sport of hunting, it's people like this that give all of us ethical hunters a bad rap.

I'm really amazed that someone would actually defend this moron.
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I think you're misreading his post. I believe he was saying the bad shot is just plain old hunting.. And i would agree with him completely. I have no doubt being a new hunter that I will not make 1 shot kills right away. I'll try my best, but I'm new and it happens. As AKD said, the key is to follow up ASAP and finish the job. you get some good shots, and probably some bad. this isn't unethical. just means practice some more, learn from the experience, and maybe try a different angle next time right? he did point out and I think we all agree that the waiting portion was the unacceptable part of the video.
 
ShootSavage said:
(To hitch.bd yes it's as bad as I described it (or worse) so if you really get bothered by senseless cruelty then don't watch it because it's sickening, I wish I hadn't seen it.)

I am glad some of you did have the stomach to watch to see the kind of nutcases that they allow to go in the woods with a gun, How can hunters not be looked down on, when people that don't know any different and think this is how we all hunt, see this.

I think I'll be angry, disgusted and feel every other negative feeling one can feel about someone after watching this for some time to come.

Thing is I think a**holes like this are probably getting a kick out of all the negative comments he's getting on the video and is probably to stupid to remove it not realizing (or caring) about the damage he's done to the rest of us. HE"S A DAM PIECE OF CRAP IN MY OPPINION
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I understand that users can report such videos to Youtube. I wouldn't even think of wanting to watch it. (I'm not a hunter). But maybe some of you hunters can report it and give your comments on how this hurts the image of sensible (and humane) hunters.
 
ibloom said:
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Originally Posted by AKD View Post
Put it this way new hunter, if u shoot a deer at 50y and it drops but is still kicking around feel free to put one in the head. The guys in the video did nothing un-ethical other than jump around.


he did point out and I think we all agree that the waiting portion was the unacceptable part of the video.
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It's the "reason" for the waiting (setting up a camera to capture that heroic moment for prosperity) that is unacceptable.
 
Not to excuse the actions in the video, but as far as cruelty and ethics are concerned, how many here have witnessed a large animal being slaughtered by the Halal or Kosher method?
It's politically incorrect to condemn that practice, but everyone pounces on a bonehead hunter. Perhaps he should have done it under the guise of a religious ceremony.
 
Interesting replies, thoughts, methods of hunting and finishing off a kill. Other than looking like boneheads on video and unaware of the time the deer was left alive after the first shot I won't judge. Goes to show we all have our own ideas, methods and ethics when it comes to hunting.

Otokiak
Rankin Inlet, NU
CANADA
 
bearkilr said:
Not to excuse the actions in the video, but as far as cruelty and ethics are concerned, how many here have witnessed a large animal being slaughtered by the Halal or Kosher method?
It's politically incorrect to condemn that practice, but everyone pounces on a bonehead hunter. Perhaps he should have done it under the guise of a religious ceremony.
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VERY good point. I've seen it, and it does appear quite barbaric... whether it is or not is a whole different discussion ...
 
I lung-shot my first deer and it was still twitching when I ran up to it.

I was really pumped up like this guy when I ran up to it.

I yelled to my buddy who has at least 15 years under his belt "It's still moving," and he yelled back, quite curtly "Then shoot it in the head." Reflecting on it, I'm glad he did - the deer was suffering, it was the humane thing to do.

I can understand the first kill enthusiasm - although videotaping it in that fashion is pretty low. The guy he was with, if more experienced, should have been more firm saying to finish it off, pictures later.

That's something the Hunter Safety course even says - if you make a kill, don't parade it around like that.
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Let me guess, 99% of you guys shoot a deer then wait 20 minutes after it runs into the bush to go look for it.
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See, this is probably the most poignant post in this thread. We are told by mentors to wait 15-20 mins after confirming a solid hit.
I have done that my entire hunting career. You don't want the animal pushed, let it die. There was nothing wrong in waiting.
Would I have waited when I knew where my bullet went and the animal DRT'd?
No, but if the animal ran off, I'd let it go and wait for a few minutes before following up. But that being siad, I know wherer my bullets are going.
Nothing wrong with getting it on video. The "errors" came in when he didn't finish it right away, went for the "Hero" shots, and then compounded it by posting it online.
We have all had similar situations. Those of us with compassion, use it, and if we video it, it is for a reminder to future generations we teach. NOT whatever type of self-aggrandizement we happen to be seeking at the time.
I can guaratnee that any kill I made that went bad did NOT make it to video, and they never should. The memories are bad enough.
When I was 15, I shot a small doe with my 20ga. She was about 30yds away and dropped right there. Double lunged and was unable to run away. Since it dropped, I went over to it, thinking I had killed her immediately. She was unable to move although still trying, dying, still aware of what was going on around her. I was completely unable to kill her. It never occured to me to shoot her again. I sat down beside her, placed my hand on her neck, and cried until after she was dead. Then I carried her out of the woods. At no time was there any elation of the type this young man in the video exhibited. The excitement of the hunt and kill quickly faded. Luckily I learned from that experience and, although still touched when I kill an animal, I understand my role and responsibility. Excitement should never override compassion and responsibility. Take your hero pose after the animal is dead.
 
rookie wildcat said:
See, this is probably the most poignant post in this thread. We are told by mentors to wait 15-20 mins after confirming a solid hit.
I have done that my entire hunting career. You don't want the animal pushed, let it die. There was nothing wrong in waiting.
Would I have waited when I knew where my bullet went and the animal DRT'd?
No, but if the animal ran off, I'd let it go and wait for a few minutes before following up. But that being siad, I know wherer my bullets are going.
Nothing wrong with getting it on video. The "errors" came in when he didn't finish it right away, went for the "Hero" shots, and then compounded it by posting it online.
We have all had similar situations. Those of us with compassion, use it, and if we video it, it is for a reminder to future generations we teach. NOT whatever type of self-aggrandizement we happen to be seeking at the time.
I can guaratnee that any kill I made that went bad did NOT make it to video, and they never should. The memories are bad enough.
When I was 15, I shot a small doe with my 20ga. She was about 30yds away and dropped right there. Double lunged and was unable to run away. Since it dropped, I went over to it, thinking I had killed her immediately. She was unable to move although still trying, dying, still aware of what was going on around her. I was completely unable to kill her. It never occured to me to shoot her again. I sat down beside her, placed my hand on her neck, and cried until after she was dead. Then I carried her out of the woods. At no time was there any elation of the type this young man in the video exhibited. The excitement of the hunt and kill quickly faded. Luckily I learned from that experience and, although still touched when I kill an animal, I understand my role and responsibility. Excitement should never override compassion and responsibility. Take your hero pose after the animal is dead.
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I hope you are not laughing at this^^^^^^^


AKD said:
lol cried eh.


moving moment ,,, what ever,,, Its kinda funny picturing it.
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Dench said:
it was a sad moment when Bambi's mom died a**hole :D
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AKD said:
lol
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skit said:
hahahahaha, and you guys call us old guys fudds. poor bambie. why don't you all call p.i.t.a. bang.....bang.....bambie's dead. of god,,,no. hahahahaha.
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If you all are laughing at wildcats post I am more disgusted with this than the callousness of the video. If you all are indeed laughing at the post, I am truly disgusted.
 
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