Dishwasher m14 warning.

Cost of normal approach to degrease a 305, and prep the stock:

3 sheets of wet & dry sandpaper, 2 oz of oil, lots of steel wool, proper chemicals, and 16 hours of elbow grease, etc......

Cost of abnormal approach with putting all gun parts into a diswasher:

2 oz of Cascade liquid detergent and 25 minutes wait time.

Cost of the results ending up on a marvelous thread on CGN and hearing every smart aleck remark from across Canada and beyond:

Priceless.
 
Like anyone else, I sometimes do dumb things...
but this is the bottom of the scatterbrained idiot pile!

I would never dream of putting a wood stock in a dishwasher, let alone the entire rifle.

The best way to remove the cosmoline from a rifle is a Varsol bath and brush. I melts right off. And, save the used Varsol. It makes an excellent camp fire starter.
 
Rutger said:
Lets compare flashpoints, shall we?

Varsol, is 140 F

Naptha is 100 F

and Gasoline..... -40F

For comparison, Diesel is 143 F.

Naptha and Varsol (And Diesel as stated before) are relatively safe, because you are unlikely to be cleaning your firearms in an ambient temperature greater than 100 F, so vapor ignition is remote.

Unless you are working with gasoline as a solvent, below -40, it will remain highly explosive and therefore should not be used...
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He he :D, hint........... your not supposed to light the freakin stuff on fire and burn the cosmoline off. :eek:
 
O.k guys, cut the guy some slack.

Give your M14 metal parts a sandblasting using a fine glass beed. It will take off all the rust spots and leave a nice even matt finnish (plug the bore and chamber before doing the blasting). Then have the parts hot blued. It will look mint.
 
OK... so I think I'm getting the hang of this thing then. My only question: Should I remove the electronics first?












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To 870supermag:

Your friend has done a very impressive job restoring the rifle. I'm glad he didn't count it as a write off. Hopefully it will make that rifle all the more special. It may one day even fetch a premium on the EE being the infamous dishwasher rifle! Or perhaps not.

As far as the ribbing goes - most of it is in good taste. Look past the other stuff and keep the updates coming. I, for one, really want to see the finished product.

The only thing I've got against your friend - and this is quite serious - is what the h*ll is with that tablecloth? Seriously... if you're any kind of friend at all, you'll do something about that. :)
 
Why didn't we all think of this before??

We all know the government's intention in the Firearms Act is to protect us from ourselves. So perhaps the real reason, the real logic behind the 26" overall length requirement in Act is to protect our valuable long guns, our heritage, our sustenance guns... from being ruined in the dishwasher too easily! I mean, I can't even stuff my shortie in the dishwasher so the real long guns are safe.

See, government knows best! It's for our protection. :onCrack:

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I know this doesn't protect valuable handguns from being accidentally ruined, but I've heard our government is working on changing some handgun laws also.
 
I say that the M305 came back really well from it's trip to hot water & detergent hell... I used to have one of the Norc 1911A1s, and it rusted almost that bad after one shooting trip in the rain!

;)
 
At work I have an industrial version of the dishwasher. We uses it to clean pump housings and other parts be fore rebuilding them. You could literally fit about 20 m14's in it without even stripping em.
 
Ladies and gentlemen... Thank you for making me spit my coffee on my keyboard this morning. This one is going doing in the history books!
 
I've not read the whole thread, but from the look of the pictures, the rifle should clean up not too badly. The rust is superficial, and I very much doubt if there is any real pitting. Clean it up with oil and very fine steel wool, and it should be fine. It might be a bit mottled, but what the heck.
 
Boy sure are a lot of bandwagon jumpers on this site.

I have cleaned both my M14s, .45, 9mm etc in the dishwasher many times. Never a single issue. Looks like brand new, not a spot of rust.


I use the sanitize cycle as it gets all the water out of any tight little spots. Soon as it's done I wipe it down with oil and grease the appropriate spots. My detergent has "Grease Cutting Action". Been doing it for years. I guess I'm just stupid. :rolleyes:

Awful lot of smarminess on this site. Guess that's why I don't come here as often as I used to.

Flame away...
 
I think there is a risk of something bad happening anytime you clean a rifle this way, whether it worked for other people or not. Personally, I'd just rather do it the old fashioned way to be on the safe side.

Glad the rifle cleaned up so well.
 
you can clean guns with hot water. back in the day after ex the section took the c6 and c9 and all the rifles (c7) into a hot shower. then cleaned and oiled them right after. but i think buddy put it threw dry cycle. water shouldn't do that. if you oiled right after or continue oiling in a wet area. when i was pte posted to a battalion, i was issued a fn that was silver, no bluing. loved that rifle, but it took alot to keep it rust free on ex. if i didn't i would get charged. so 2 or 3 times a day i swab it down with that artic oil, the red stuff. most who served in the 80's and befor will no. never had a problem. i just think people are lazzy. i don't wan't to strip my stock. i'll put it in the washer, i don't wan't to clean the cosmolene out, put it in the dishwasher. what the hell are you thinking? take a little pried in the rifle you bought. take a wee bit of time and do it old school, less problems and lesss likey to bite you in the ass. become one with your rifle. "this is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine".:ban:
 
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