Dishwasher m14 warning.

I'm a newbi to the to the M14, I've had lots of guns, cleaned a hell of a lot of cosmo off my wwI & wwII stuff and I too seen this dishwasher Tip on here and tried it, It came out "Spot less" so if you would have asked me I would have told you to go for it, I put the whole gun in, broke it down sent the wife shopping and in it went, but now seeing what happened to your friend I'll go back to my old way's. sorry to see it but by the look of the new pic's you have it under control,
 
#1bcshooter said:
Also if you ever want to put a scope mount on it I would remove the striper clip feed block wile you still can & clean & oil the dove tail
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Thanks for those words of wisdom. I just took mine off and found the dovetail filled with "sludge" and iron filings. Over time it would may well have welded itself in place.
 
juanvaldez said:
Actually your wrong and the reason is we use soap in our dishwashers along with hot water.

Most soaps are soluble sodium or potassium salts of carboxylic acids. The most common commercial soap is sodium stearate, Na[C17H35CO2]. It dissolves in water, forming the sodium and stearate ions. Even though most of the stearate ion is a hydrocarbon chain, it dissolves in water because of the carboxylate group. The carboxylate end is called hydrophilic (water-loving), and the hydrocarbon tail is called hydrophobic (water-fearing).
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It is the long hydrocarbon chains of the stearate anions that dissolve the oils and greases. If water containing dissolved soap is mixed with oil, the hydrocarbon chains strongly attract the oil, while the ionic ends keep the soap dissolved into water. The oil spot is broken up into small droplets and dispersed into the water. The "tails" of many soap anions are needed to remove each oil droplet.
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As a Chem Major, :cheers:

That's Awesome. And I'll gladly validate that. Also dont forget, there's several types of hydrocarbons, and they have different boiling points etc, for example, methane being a gas at room temperature, and octane (as we all know) a liquid...they're still hydrocarbons. Most commercial detergents (a zeolite) will gladly strip hydrocarbons in a variety of methods (grease cutting essentially)... Although...I did use brake cleaner on my metal parts, saving them from the dish washer!


870supermag, massively HUGE recovery on the gun, looks MUCH MUCH better. :) Props to you, sir!
 
I personally used the dishwasher to clean 2/3 of my M14s. It worked great and neither have any rust. You just have to grab the parts quickly one at a time while it is rinsing. You grab them, run to the table where you have oil to hose it down with. I did this one part at a time and applied very very liberal amounts of oil. It worked fine. After seeing this thread, I might not clean that last one in the dishwasher.

EDITED TO ADD: This dishwasher is the old one we are getting rid of and do not use. I don't eat gun oil.
 
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Hey - that's a big improvement and it looks more authentic somehow. Show us future pics of it in action and that'll close out the thread on a positive note.

It's true that on CGN we get so used to taking the piss out of each other that when someone new comes along who takes things a tad literally (like the dishwasher tip) the result can be rather stinging. But the worst is over - the rifle is in the recovery ward and will soon be making someone happy :)
 
Sorry for your friend's lost but it looks much better now hope everything work out good for him.

I remember browsing the net a person using kitchen stove for parkerizing not sure if you can find a container that size to do the action with the barrel on it but if you like I will try to find the link and post it.
 
I think the problem has to be either with the dishwasher ,the detergent used or we are not hearing the full story on this

I just ran four stocks through the dishwasher one from 2005,one from 2006 and two from the last batch ........none of the metal in any of them show any signs at all of rust.

and for the poster above whining about the #### given off when the parts are run through the dishwasher and how nasty they are


think about it einstien.......what kind of vapours are given off when solvents or better yet Break klean are used...........
the dish washer is much easier on my health
 
So here are some more pics and well since there have been people that made this work for them in the dishwasher all I can say is my buddy used the sanitizing function and it is a new washer so maybe that led to this happening.
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Spcamno said:
Here's you go: http://www.jouster.com/articles30m1/parkerizing.html

Never done that myself but you might want to start athread in the gunsmith section to see how can you able to seal the inside of the barrel or where you don't want to be parkerized.

Good luck and keep us posted on the progress.
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Chrome line bbl might be ok against the parkerizing. I have used this exact formula on some bits and it worked great, never tried anything biggeren 1911 frame though
 
and the rest of the story........

bclinehand said:
I think the problem has to be either with the dishwasher ,the detergent used or we are not hearing the full story on this

I just ran four stocks through the dishwasher one from 2005,one from 2006 and two from the last batch ........none of the metal in any of them show any signs at all of rust.
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870supermag said:
So here are some more pics and well since there have been people that made this work for them in the dishwasher all I can say is my buddy used the sanitizing function and it is a new washer so maybe that led to this happening.
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Even though the damage was done by accident you friend did a bang up job of fixing his mistake


well done:)





Was just re reading my post and the thought did come to me that perhaps the "Sanitize" setting could be used for rust blueing:D:D:D:D
 
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