when you say " well made and good value for todays market CONDITION, is this a sort of compromise, so its still can be improve, its like saying NOT BAD,BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH, I m still waiting for mine too, now this makes me a little bit aphrehensive.
Dlask FA BCG NiB
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when you say " well made and good value for todays market CONDITION, is this a sort of compromise, so its still can be improve, its like saying NOT BAD,BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH, I m still waiting for mine too, now this makes me a little bit aphrehensive.
I wouldn't be apprehensive at all. I am well pleased with the BCG and don't see anything wrong with it in terms of quality. I would have preferred to see the gas key staking done a little more aggressively, but that is something that can be corrected. If there's anything right off the top that I think could potentially be improved, this would be it.
As for the rest of the unit, well, that remains to be seen. We are all beta testers of sorts with this product. I'm not sure that Icearms/Dlask is manufacturing the bolt proper as opposed to manufacturing the carrier, procuring the bolts and having the whole lot treated with NiB ... can't say. Regardless, I'm not in the least bit worried about it in terms of performing its intended function.
As for my comment regarding value, I was referring more to the fact that being able to purchase a full BCG in NiB for $200 in today's market conditions represents a good (very good) value. I have seen Spike's and Fail Zero's with asking prices of $4-500 on eBay.
Icearms isn't manufacturing these BCG.
beavis_m305
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- New Zealand
I really don't know why some people insist on not staking the ####in carrier key
If it was being sold that way inside a complete gun, I agree 100%
Being a single part to be installed, I`m not worried about it because I can inspect, and fix it myself if needed, before I install.
That does not mean that I`m totally ok with it, just that it`s not NEA status to me personally.
I work in Construction and usually when what you can see looks wrong, the stuff you can`t see is more wrong.
I`m hoping that this isn`t the case, as BCG`s are next to impossible to find right now, and this is the last part I need to shoot my new gun!
I look forward to telling you all about the excellent product that I receive!
I got a shipping notification but customer service is non existent at this point, I wanted to add a 2nd bcg to my order and not sure if it happened, also ordered a mag with the order but it's been removed from my invoice (but paid for)
I will reserve judgement till it arrives. I will either be extremely happy or very disappointed !
I will reserve judgement till it arrives. I will either be extremely happy or very disappointed !
boss351cleveland
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I had a gas key come loose before , could not figure out why the rifle was not functioning all a sudden , took it apart and discovered the gas key was loose and the inside of my upper got all scraped and gouged up from the loose key ..
The ridiculous thing about improperly staked gas keys is that Norinco does a terrific job of staking their gas keys, and it takes 2 minutes to do, so why is it a big deal for manufacturers, it is a deal breaker, at least for me.
beavis_m305
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- New Zealand
Usually people that don't do it claim some BS like "it's old thinking, we want to be different" or "you can stretch the thread on the gas key screws". Both rubbish explanations. I had a rifle with an improperly staked key (read not at all) that just failed to extract right from the box. Funny how a bit of time with a MOAKS tool got my rifle cycling. Also my RRA and Colt uppers both have aggressively staked keys and I have never had one single stoppage attributable to the gas system with either. Even with ####ty under powered ammo.
beavis_m305
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- New Zealand
Are these made in Canada or the US? Would be nice to have another source for AR parts that escapes ITAR.
Yes. There is more of an excuse for no staking at all than a weak staking. If the effort is going to be made to stake the gas key bolts, why not really displace some metal and do it right. Seems like such little effort to ensure the durability of the BCG.
F22_RaptoR
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- Edmonton, Alberta
FWIW The Motiuk MFG bolt carrier group I got had a VERY aggressively staked gas key, you know for sure that thing isn't moving at ALL. I know they are 100 bucks more, but you know for sure it's a good full Mil Spec bolt carrier group. Shot peened and MP inspected bolt, and a properly staked key.
For a Parkerized BCG (versus NiB), I'm kind of glad I went with the Motiuk one instead.
For a Parkerized BCG (versus NiB), I'm kind of glad I went with the Motiuk one instead.
beavis_m305
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- New Zealand
Yes as in made in CAD and no ITAR crap?
Navy Gunner
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- Eastern Passage NS
Has the company responded to the staking issue, seems to me a very easy thing to fix.
what I read in their section on CGN was that the bcg is made in Canada but then assembled at Dask/ icearms facility. They don't reveal the manufacturer but, there are just not that many Bcg manufacturers in Canada. " That we won't be telling you except that they are made in Canada under our direction with our drawings and our quality control in our shop"
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I just received my NIB BCG today in the mail and it looks great and is staked. The issue I am now having when I switched it out for my stag bcg is the the gas tube is getting stuck in it. I removed the bcg and the gas tube came with it. Took me 10 minutes to get it unlogged. It is a NEA gas tube BTW. Anyone else having this issue? Is this just a break in thing?
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