Do I need a 6.5PRC?

well the 6.5 manbun is a 600 yard cartridge and the 6.5 prc adds about 250 yards to that...which I think your 7 prc does and likely even more...so no, don't waste your time with your 6.5 prc notions, how's your rangefinder? got decent geovids? you got a jet boat yet? what about a 4-season off-grid cargo trailer adventure pod you can ice fish and hunt out of? (I shot a wolf out of mine in my ginch last year), any idea what 100 ah plus lifepo4 batteries and solar panels are worth? webasto diesel heaters? heck yeti coolers one for trailer and big one for the meat in the truck lol, how's your backcountry gear? tents/packs/sleep systems etc.?...anyhow, less rifle stuff, your bases are covered, more other outdoor gear! more stuff that gets yer arse out there using what you do have which is already solid 21st century 600-1000+ yard options
 
These are the sort of enabling comments I'm looking for I think, hahaha. This basically mirrors what a few folks I know in person with 6.5PRC's have told me

I’ve probably had a dozen or more of them built, Andy Voight of Dragon Mountain Machine is building me one right now on a Defiance AnTi XM action, 23 inch #2 fluted 1-8 twist Benchmark Barrel, Manners stock, Triggertech trigger, will be a lightweight handy hunting rifle.
A Kimber Montana 8400 (WSM donor) is a great platform for a rebarrel job to 6.5 PRC as well.
 
I would dump the Creedmoor and get the 6.5 PRC. Every time I take it out I like it more and more. I wish I had taken some pictures today. 0.5” groups at 200, 0.8” @300 and 2-1/4” at 475.
 
well the 6.5 manbun is a 600 yard cartridge and the 6.5 prc adds about 250 yards to that...which I think your 7 prc does and likely even more...so no, don't waste your time with your 6.5 prc notions, how's your rangefinder? got decent geovids? you got a jet boat yet? what about a 4-season off-grid cargo trailer adventure pod you can ice fish and hunt out of? (I shot a wolf out of mine in my ginch last year), any idea what 100 ah plus lifepo4 batteries and solar panels are worth? webasto diesel heaters? heck yeti coolers one for trailer and big one for the meat in the truck lol, how's your backcountry gear? tents/packs/sleep systems etc.?...anyhow, less rifle stuff, your bases are covered, more other outdoor gear! more stuff that gets yer arse out there using what you do have which is already solid 21st century 600-1000+ yard options

Ha! I don’t know about a jet boat, but the off grid trailer is food for thought. That’s something I’d use for sure.
 
I would dump the Creedmoor and get the 6.5 PRC. Every time I take it out I like it more and more. I wish I had taken some pictures today. 0.5” groups at 200, 0.8” @300 and 2-1/4” at 475.

I’m pretty sure this would be the outcome if I did pick one up. The creedmoor is a Tikka CTR and it’s been a lot of fun reloading for and crazy accurate. I’ve kind of had my eye on a tikka UPR or Sako S20 in 6.5PRC
 
Ha! I don’t know about a jet boat, but the off grid trailer is food for thought. That’s something I’d use for sure.

right on, ours has become part of family and has it's own name, we staple pics of success on the walls as we go, the amount priceless on those walls now is huge, anyone going to build one pm me for some dos and don'ts and ideas also, have evolved mine for many years now, from complete overhauls to take on new challenges etc. summer desert heat/screened at all ends to -30 on the ice with holes we fish right out of the trailer from and everything in between
 
YOU Only EVER NEED A 30-06 and a 22-250 ! But It’s nice to have a 223 22-250 6 CM 25-06 6.5 G 6.5 x55 6.5 PRC 7-08 280 280 AI 7 PRC 7 RM 308 30-06 300 PRC 338 Fed 338 WM LOL. Might have missed a FEW ! JMO RJ

How insulting I don’t see one Weatherby Cartridge on that list ;)

If I had to pair the list down it would be 6mm CM, 6.5 PRC, 280AI, 7mm PRC, 300 PRC
 
It will happen where the small guys are gone , again .
Or lets all pull out the 223
The caliber size going down and speed up works to a certain degree and after , well shock is suppose to be the factor
where's the penetration and wound channel difference ? the stopping power on a angling shot
The last thread was talking about 800 yards and yet no one challenged the shooter ability ?
A cartridge capable of 800 yard target ( thru paper) is a bit diff than a moose or elk . Who cares about paper
I do believe .264 , .277 . 284. .308 . 323 matters . Bigger hole ? ya or no
They can all shoot the same bullet
 
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Is there a on game performance difference to justify the purchase. The way I understand it, 7prc is basically equivalent to a 7rm but designed for fast twist/high bc bullets. Ditto for 6.5prc vs 264wm, and 6.5x55vs 6.5 creedmore.

So if you want it, go for it. Realize though, not all new calibers thrive. Sometimes, after the initial marketing hype they become the answer to a question knowone asked. Considering the ammo and component shortages, that are just now starting to ease. If you buy it, source brass, lots of brass.
 
Yeh if I had to add a Wby cartridge it would be the 240 Wby :d

While I like it, they're typical of old school calibers, 1-10 or 1-9.5 twist. So your limited to 100gr max, and just a few bullets that can handle the difference between 243》》》240 velocity. Not sure if the search for brass is worth the difference in performance between it and a 25-06.

Back to 6.5 prc. I know of a fellow in the BC peace who uses its ballistic twin, 264wm, on Elk, and Moose. One of the problems just like my speil above, new high bc 6.5 bullets are going to be designed for 6.5 creedmore velocity say 250-300ft/sec slower than the prc. Wondering what bullet takes advantage of the increased performance of the prc, delivers terminal performance on game. I'm more a bonded or partition bullet fan, not sold on the obvious Hornady offering of eld-x.
 
While I like it, they're typical of old school calibers, 1-10 or 1-9.5 twist. So your limited to 100gr max, and just a few bullets that can handle the difference between 243》》》240 velocity. Not sure if the search for brass is worth the difference in performance between it and a 25-06.

Back to 6.5 prc. I know of a fellow in the BC peace who uses its ballistic twin, 264wm, on Elk, and Moose. One of the problems just like my speil above, new high bc 6.5 bullets are going to be designed for 6.5 creedmore velocity say 250-300ft/sec slower than the prc. Wondering what bullet takes advantage of the increased performance of the prc, delivers terminal performance on game. I'm more a bonded or partition bullet fan, not sold on the obvious Hornady offering of eld-x.

good point , mind you a TTSX bullet avail all the way up , or the TA
Performance means what to you ?
 
While I like it, they're typical of old school calibers, 1-10 or 1-9.5 twist. So your limited to 100gr max, and just a few bullets that can handle the difference between 243》》》240 velocity. Not sure if the search for brass is worth the difference in performance between it and a 25-06.

Back to 6.5 prc. I know of a fellow in the BC peace who uses its ballistic twin, 264wm, on Elk, and Moose. One of the problems just like my speil above, new high bc 6.5 bullets are going to be designed for 6.5 creedmore velocity say 250-300ft/sec slower than the prc. Wondering what bullet takes advantage of the increased performance of the prc, delivers terminal performance on game. I'm more a bonded or partition bullet fan, not sold on the obvious Hornady offering of eld-x.

Would be interesting to see it runnning a "plain old" 140gr Partition or Accubond. 3060-3110 FPS with those per Nosler's data. .490 and .509 BC respectively. Would be hitting 450 yards with comfortably over 2200 fps and 1500 ft/lbs with the Partition. Just below it at 500.

If anyone feels like the 6.5 CM is a bit lacking for the big stuff at those ranges....not a bad option at all.
 
Would be interesting to see it runnning a "plain old" 140gr Partition or Accubond. 3060-3110 FPS with those per Nosler's data. .490 and .509 BC respectively.

still a small hole , small boolit , small damage
getting there is only a small part of it
 
still a small hole , small boolit , small damage
getting there is only a small part of it

6.5mm effects on big game are a question that's been answered for well over 100 years though. Bullets and delivery systems have only gotten better since.

Someone can accept that, or not. Entirely their call. But the idea of it not being sufficient has long since been dispelled.

We've come a long, long way from the 160gr 2300 fps 6.5 Mannlicher bullets that were killing Wildebeest and Kudu long before any of us were born.
 
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