Do I really need a .375 H&H ?

[c-fbmi]

regulate34, possibly you could give us a resume of animals you have harvested with your Ruger imposter to lend some credence to your most vocal position. I am happy to post a partial resume for the animals I have taken with the old H&H..........

























That is just a few from the last few years, you can add another dozen or so animals to the list including a leopard, many impala, many other black bears, a couple moose, another hippo............when you can compare the Ruger imposter, with this kind of experience, come on back and extoll the virtues of the wannabe H&H.

 

[-Savage-]

"Do I really need a .375 H&H?"

No, what you need is a .366 Wagner

 

[Dorian Gray]

Didn't you get a lion as well with the H&H, c-fbmi?

Either way, those pics really show the versatility of the old warhorse! I'm not a magnum guy by any means but you really got me thinking that maybe I should give one a whirl.

 

[AP]

there are more modern and efficient float planes out there, Pilatus Porter comes to mind, but does it really do anything better than a beaver

... Well the Caravan is pretty nice and there really is nothing like a Twotter .. when you absolutely HAVE to get out!
Agreed ... the .375H&H cant be beat ... the answer is finding the right rifle for it -- personally I like the BRNO ZKK 602 and the Sako Mannlicher

 

[Gatehouse]

You probably need one as much as I needed the .375 Ruger Alaskan I got a couple weeks ago! But being in BC we all know that there's huge grizzlys behind every trees waiting to pounce on unexpecting hunters. That's how I justified mine anyway!

So you need a gun with huge bullets and lots of energy! They Pounce!!!

Oldy but goody!!

 

[Dogleg]

regulate34, possibly you could give us a resume of animals you have harvested with your Ruger imposter to lend some credence to your most vocal position. I am happy to post a partial resume for the animals I have taken with the old H&H..........

























That is just a few from the last few years, you can add another dozen or so animals to the list including a leopard, many impala, many other black bears, a couple moose, another hippo............when you can compare the Ruger imposter, with this kind of experience, come on back and extoll the virtues of the wannabe H&H.

What, no elephants? Me neither, but I have done steinbuck to giraffe and snuck 9 buffalo in with the .375. 3 continents worth of playing around. I'm sure that some wanna-be cartridge that does nothing better might want to coat-tail or me-too its way onto 100 years of consistent success and tradition, but its never going to be anything other than a bridesmaid then forgotten.

 

[Gatehouse]

That is simply due to the years the 375H&H has been around, but does not mean it is a superior round. It would be like saying the beaver has done the most puddle jump flying, there for, your new awesome float plane that out performs the beaver is no good, simply because it has not done as many flights. Despite the fact, it outperforms the beaver on every flight it has done.

Absolutely. The H&H is a fine cartridge, but we should be honest- any new cartridge that was introduced today with the same case design as the H&H would be laughed at. All the straight sided, rimless and belt less cartridges of the last 100 years proved we don't need long tapered sides to feed and extract - and we certainly don't need belts for bolt actions!

 

[regulate34]

Your not getting my point. Your just proving it. Ofcourse the ruger has not killed as many as the H&H. It's only been here since 2007. My truck has 300,000km don't make it better then a truck with 10,000km. In fact the older truck is outdated and the new truck is vast improvement. But because the new truck hasn't racked up the km don't mean it's not faster stronger ECT... I don't see how this is such a hard thing to grasp. I'm am not bashing the round I am putting in a dig on the people defending it. It's almost like the H&H is not up for the challange. Only time will tell.

 

[regulate34]

As for "ruger imposter". The round is not impersonating the H&H in any way except the bullet it shoots

 

[philthygeezer]

Absolutely. The H&H is a fine cartridge, but we should be honest- any new cartridge that was introduced today with the same case design as the H&H would be laughed at. All the straight sided, rimless and belt less cartridges of the last 100 years proved we don't need long tapered sides to feed and extract - and we certainly don't need belts for bolt actions!

But feed and extract it does, usually very smoothly too.

I like the .375 Ruger as well. Hope it's a successful cartridge. Also would like to see the .338 Federal gain a bit of popularity, or maybe a .338-06.

 

[jjohnwm]

Absolutely. The H&H is a fine cartridge, but we should be honest- any new cartridge that was introduced today with the same case design as the H&H would be laughed at.

So what? If the dog had never been domesticated, and then today someone suggested that we should do so, he would be laughed at. "So you want to take an intelligent carnivorous animal and bring it into your home to live with your wife and kids? SECURITY!!!" How about bicycles? Imagine they didn't exist, and then some inventor came out with the idea today...a rider balancing on two narrow inline wheels, riding around in city traffic. Ridiculous notion...but historically accepted, and vastly successful, with decades of successful use by huge numbers of riders. These ideas were introduced in a different time and different world, but served a purpose that still exists, and which they continue to satisfy today. The advancements in cartridge design that have produced wunderkinds like the short/fat magnums, non-belted magnums and other new designs are merely trivial refinements, often introduced more for reasons of marketing than actual improvement of the technology.

As for "ruger imposter". The round is not impersonating the H&H in any way except the bullet it shoots

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The .375 Ruger was developed specifically to duplicate the ballistics of the H&H, shooting the same bullet weights at the same velocities; practically the definition of impersonation.

 

[hoytcanon]

I am happy to post a partial resume for the animals I have taken with the old H&H..........

It's amazing how many animals shot the SAME walrus...

 

[sheephunter]

regulate34, possibly you could give us a resume of animals you have harvested with your Ruger imposter to lend some credence to your most vocal position. I am happy to post a partial resume for the animals I have taken with the old H&H..........




That is just a few from the last few years, you can add another dozen or so animals to the list including a leopard, many impala, many other black bears, a couple moose, another hippo............when you can compare the Ruger imposter, with this kind of experience, come on back and extoll the virtues of the wannabe H&H.

Okay, I have to know the story behind this picture. Two species of zebra together?

 

[c-fbmi]

HMMMMM.........seem to have forgot some.............hold the phone........





What do you mean no elephant Dogleg, of course I have taken an elephant...........................



Just not with the 375 H&H, it was a camp rental in 416 Rem.

 

[c-fbmi]

... Well the Caravan is pretty nice and there really is nothing like a Twotter .. when you absolutely HAVE to get out!
Agreed ... the .375H&H cant be beat ... the answer is finding the right rifle for it -- personally I like the BRNO ZKK 602 and the Sako Mannlicher

AH yes AP, but you've stepped up a whole class of puddle ducks with the caravan and twotter, you're in .416 territory now........LOL

 

[c-fbmi]

Okay, I have to know the story behind this picture. Two species of zebra together?

Nope Sheep, an old mare for a rug, and then a nice running shot on a younger stud for a pedestal mount. Look how sharp and crisp his lines are compared to the old mare, especially on the face, he should make an outstanding pedestal mount.

 

[jlagman]

.375 H&H does have international appeal and support, which are some of the reasons why I seem to be drawn to it. But while I'm getting ahead of myself, I think those reasons by themselves are enough to justify owning a firearm chambered for it.

 

[regulate34]

The .375 Ruger was developed specifically to duplicate the ballistics of the H&H, shooting the same bullet weights at the same velocities; practically the definition of impersonation.

My car has 4 wheels and a motor and runs on gas. So with your logic my honda is a Lamborghini ?

 

[Gatehouse]

So what? If the dog had never been domesticated, and then today someone suggested that we should do so, he would be laughed at. "So you want to take an intelligent carnivorous animal and bring it into your home to live with your wife and kids? SECURITY!!!" How about bicycles? Imagine they didn't exist, and then some inventor came out with the idea today...a rider balancing on two narrow inline wheels, riding around in city traffic. Ridiculous notion...but historically accepted, and vastly successful, with decades of successful use by huge numbers of riders. These ideas were introduced in a different time and different world, but served a purpose that still exists, and which they continue to satisfy today. The advancements in cartridge design that have produced wunderkinds like the short/fat magnums, non-belted magnums and other new designs are merely trivial refinements, often introduced more for reasons of marketing than actual improvement of the technology.

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The .375 Ruger was developed specifically to duplicate the ballistics of the H&H, shooting the same bullet weights at the same velocities; practically the definition of impersonation.

Using your bicycle example- if someone introduced a bicycle today that was the same as a 100 year old bicycle, it would be laughed at. Unless it was just for a nostalgia thing I guess. Same as the H&H. It's an antiquated case design. It still works of course, just like a 100 year old bicycle design will still work. but nobody designs cases like that anymore.

 

[Dogleg]

HMMMMM.........seem to have forgot some.............hold the phone........





What do you mean no elephant Dogleg, of course I have taken an elephant...........................



Just not with the 375 H&H, it was a camp rental in 416 Rem.

That's what I meant, not with the three seven five. Oddly my elephant were shot with a .416 as well, but a Rigby.