I have to say that I like the Gen3 glock default grip way more than the Gen4. But I have a Gen4 now and it is not giving me good grip compare to other guns I have tried. Talon grip is kinda pricy. I have seen other people saying they use grip tape. I have some leftover from renovation but those things are like freaking roughest sand paper. Sure it will grip but it will destroy my hand *LOL*. I also heard someone said they use skateboard grip tape. Any difference in those? As I would imagine those I have for putting on stairs are for gripping shoes.. not hands (duh? silly me) Is the rubber sleeve any good? I don't wanna wear gloves if I dont have to but is there any good solution to improving the Gen4 Glock grip (I know some of you will say the BEST solution is to sell your Glock and get a better gun... I mean besides that =P ) If you know something that works well for you please share here. Thanks!