Do you really need a magnum

"Need" a magnum IF i can only have 1 rifle. 300wm is the way. It can be whatever you want it to be based on your ammo selection / reloads. My 300wm can shoot softer than my 6.5cm if setup for the task...and can do so much more...again, if setup to do so.
 
Hey; I say it even though I'm an unabashed big seven guyLaugh2.

The boring old 300 Win just covers so much ground: I never find myself carrying one and wishing I'd brought something else. Can't say that about every caliber I own. ;) Just something about 30-06 bullets at 270 speed. Easy availability is just iceing on the cake.

Yeah, I've never really been a fan, but at one point I had 5 of them. I've got it down to 2 now. A Rem 700 Police and a Winlite 70- dan
 
Yeah, I've never really been a fan, but at one point I had 5 of them. I've got it down to 2 now. A Rem 700 Police and a Winlite 70- dan

I'm down to 5 Wins, a Weatherby and a WSM. I could be off on the Wins though, it's hard to keep track of them sometimes. My Police doesn't have much original left except the serial number and bottom metal, but I still call it that because I have to call it something. Its wearing a McMillan Hunter and heavy fluted Sendero contoured Lilja and trigger tech.

I used to think of the 300 Win as a performance rifle cartridge for people who really weren't that interested in rifles, but time and age have sort of forced me to accept just how good that boring old cartridge is.
 
I used to think of the 300 Win as a performance rifle cartridge for people who really weren't that interested in rifles, but time and age have sort of forced me to accept just how good that boring old cartridge is.[/QUOTE]

I couldn’t agree more :)
 
You dont need a magnum if you have an 8x57; it has more muzzle energy than the 7mm Remington Magnum, more energy at 300 yards than the 350 Remington Magnum, and a flatter trajectory than the 375 H&H Magnum.
 
You dont need a magnum if you have an 8x57; it has more muzzle energy than the 7mm Remington Magnum, more energy at 300 yards than the 350 Remington Magnum, and a flatter trajectory than the 375 H&H Magnum.

That's a little far fetched unless your sporting a 28 inch barrel and running your hand loads at max pressure.

A good 8mm 200gr load runs around 3000 FT-LBS at the muzzle....7MM REM MAG runs around 3200 FT-LBS. I'm also sure the 375 H&H shoots flatter with 250-270gr loads.
 
That's a little far fetched unless your sporting a 28 inch barrel and running your hand loads at max pressure.

A good 8mm 200gr load runs around 3000 FT-LBS at the muzzle....7MM REM MAG runs around 3200 FT-LBS. I'm also sure the 375 H&H shoots flatter with 250-270gr loads.

From the 2016 Hodgdon Annual for 175 grain bullets;

8x57 max 2837 fps

7mm RM max 2822 fps.

As to the 375, nope, compare the 160gr TTSX to any 375 load.
 
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From the 2016 Hodgdon Annual for 175 grain bullets;

8x57 max 2837 fps

7mm RM max 2822 fps.

As to the 375, nope, compare the 160gr TTSX to any 375 load.

Cherry picking loads is always an easy way to try and beat cartridges but if you look at average loading it gives you a different picture.

Nosler data shows 6 Loads of 7MM REM 175GR loads over taking the hodgdon 8mm load. From 2850-2970fps.

and a 260 gr @ 2800 fps Nosler 375 H&H load overtakes 160gr ttsx @2900 fps loads around the 400 yard mark. The 160gr ttsx has a BC of .400 while the 260gr has .490BC
 
From the 2016 Hodgdon Annual for 175 grain bullets;

8x57 max 2837 fps

7mm RM max 2822 fps.

As to the 375, nope, compare the 160gr TTSX to any 375 load.

That is a pretty wimpy 7mm Mag 175 grain load. A more realistic figure is 2950 FPS
I love the 8x57, but a 7mm Mag it is not. Dave.
 
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