Do You Support Ownership of FA (full auto) Firearms?

Do you Support FA Firearm Ownership?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,021 73.6%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 189 13.6%

  • No

    Votes: 177 12.8%
  • Total voters
    1,387
I personally have no use for a machine gun but would have no opposition to a fully vetted and licensed individual from owning one.

The gun is a tool and its use for good or evil depends on the individual holding the tool.
Some people I'd trust with a thompson submachine gun and others I wouldn't trust with a ball peen hammer.
Real public safety is all about people not inanimate objects.

Back in the day the cfos used to issue special permits for machine gun shoots once or twice a year on canadian military ranges.
There were no incidents of people getting hurt and nobody was overwhelmed by the urge to rob a bank on the way back from the event.

I wish the authorities would use unbiased statisitics to base their decisions on and not emotion or media hype.
If that were the case there would probably be no onerous firearms act which only impedes the law abiding and is totally ignored by psychos and criminals.
 
I have an interest in and a use for some types of firearms and no interest and no use for others.
I don't own any full autos or even semi autos.

Owned a win 100 a rem 742 a brwng bar.
Sold them all eventually.
My guns are all bolt, pump, lever action hunting center and rim fires which fill my freezers and stew pot just fine.

Though I stick to conventional hunting guns I would not stand in the way of a licensed gun owner acquiring or owning a full auto if he or she so desired.
I don't impose my views on others.
 
The Liberal government killed FA ownership in 1978. I don't think they will change it back. When FA owners needed support
no one gave any. That is why you can't own them now. There was a lot of money and time spent on this issue in 1977/78.
 
can14 said:
The Liberal government killed FA ownership in 1978. I don't think they will change it back. When FA owners needed support
no one gave any. That is why you can't own them now. There was a lot of money and time spent on this issue in 1977/78.
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Divide and conquer.
Section 12 grandfathering allowed the old guys to keep their 12.x guns so they kept quiet thus selling out the next generation of gun owners including their own kids who will never be able to own these guns.

Handgun owners probably won't get a lot of sympathy from those who don't own restricteds.
When they come for the semi autos the resentful disposessed handgun owners will remember that abandonment and won't bat an eye.
And then the short barreled guns and the milsurps and the pumps and so on and so on and so on until they are all gone.

The strategy is to create mutually antagonistic schisms within the firearms community and thus dissipate any attempt at united front resistance to the disarmament agenda.
Thsi strategy has already worked and worked well in canada.
 
That poll on a firearm enthusiast website: of course the overwhelming majority will support FA.
I would have a problem with SOME people operating them. I have done so myself and I cannot deny there is an elevated risk in saftey/skill that is involved in doing so.
A higher level of licensing may weed out some of the irresponsible individuals, but never all of them. -I still run into many people with PALs/RPALs that in my opinion shouldn't operate firearms (unsafe shooters, vandalists, Plain old criminals)
I think it's fine that FA is prohibited in canada (although I disagree with it fundamentally)
Reason 1: idiots at the range
Reason 2: FA is too expensive to feed!!
Reason 3: FA is useless for accuracy, hunting, really only good for a laugh.
And reason 4: come one guys, we gotta give the antis something! Kind of like a scape goat. I could certainly live without FA... I most certainly could NOT live without my semi autos, handguns, ARs, ect.

Flame suit engaged
 
eatredmeat157 said:
That poll on a firearm enthusiast website: of course the overwhelming majority will support FA.
I would have a problem with SOME people operating them. I have done so myself and I cannot deny there is an elevated risk in saftey/skill that is involved in doing so.
A higher level of licensing may weed out some of the irresponsible individuals, but never all of them. -I still run into many people with PALs/RPALs that in my opinion shouldn't operate firearms (unsafe shooters, vandalists, Plain old criminals)
I think it's fine that FA is prohibited in canada (although I disagree with it fundamentally)
Reason 1: idiots at the range
Reason 2: FA is too expensive to feed!!
Reason 3: FA is useless for accuracy, hunting, really only good for a laugh.
And reason 4: come one guys, we gotta give the antis something! Kind of like a scape goat. I could certainly live without FA... I most certainly could NOT live without my semi autos, handguns, ARs, ect.

Flame suit engaged
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FA has already been given to the antis, as well as 90% of semi auto black rifles on the pretence of easily converted as well as 90% of your regular magazine capacity, yet strangely enough they are still not content.
Right now they are coming for 100% of all handguns and the remaining 10% of semi autos.
Frankly I'm tired of giving things away.
It's enough
 
eatredmeat157 said:
That poll on a firearm enthusiast website: of course the overwhelming majority will support FA.
I would have a problem with SOME people operating them. I have done so myself and I cannot deny there is an elevated risk in saftey/skill that is involved in doing so.
A higher level of licensing may weed out some of the irresponsible individuals, but never all of them. -I still run into many people with PALs/RPALs that in my opinion shouldn't operate firearms (unsafe shooters, vandalists, Plain old criminals)
I think it's fine that FA is prohibited in canada (although I disagree with it fundamentally)
Reason 1: idiots at the range
Reason 2: FA is too expensive to feed!!
Reason 3: FA is useless for accuracy, hunting, really only good for a laugh.
And reason 4: come one guys, we gotta give the antis something! Kind of like a scape goat. I could certainly live without FA... I most certainly could NOT live without my semi autos, handguns, ARs, ect.

Flame suit engaged
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Unfortunately antis are like the zombies from TWD.
The more you feed them the more they want.
They're insatiable.

Appeasement is not the way to conquer the antis.
In fact the reverse is true.
It's just adding more fuel to the fire.
 
Aside from laughs, kicks and giggles (and suppression fire in a war) what else is FA good for.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere... Grenade launchers, armor piercing, flame throwers, explosive rounds...; SKY can't be the limit.
 
I voted maybe..

I think with the right controls in place, in the safest of controlled environments (i.e. special full auto ranges, or specific times for them on a multi-discipline ranges), there should really be no problem. I am not into 'banning' and prohibitions..

I think the elephant in the room is perhaps seeing them on the streets after they get stolen from a licensed owner.. Libtards would s**t a brick if there was a full-auto shoot-out. I realize this has never happened here, yet there has been very few FA around and they have been locked away for decades. It is a different (gangsta) world out there now. I think this is the biggest hurdle

Also this will be a rich kids club.. those guns and the ammo they eat are not cheap... So a very small sub-group of an already tiny minority of the population (gun owners) are not going to get a lot of traction.. IMHO anyway, though I may be mistaken :)
 
It would be nice if they were not treated like "the plague" though... I would settle for trying one out at a pay-n-play range or a CF base or whatever. Outright bans frign suck!
 
bobbynewmark said:
I voted maybe..

I think with the right controls in place, in the safest of controlled environments (i.e. special full auto ranges, or specific times for them on a multi-discipline ranges), there should really be no problem. I am not into 'banning' and prohibitions..

I think the elephant in the room is perhaps seeing them on the streets after they get stolen from a licensed owner.. Libtards would s**t a brick if there was a full-auto shoot-out. I realize this has never happened here, yet there has been very few FA around and they have been locked away for decades. It is a different (gangsta) world out there now. I think this is the biggest hurdle

Also this will be a rich kids club.. those guns and the ammo they eat are not cheap... So a very small sub-group of an already tiny minority of the population (gun owners) are not going to get a lot of traction.. IMHO anyway, though I may be mistaken :)
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You are into banning.

Banned except for specific places. Currently they are only banned except for certain people who owned them before the ban. If you are ok with limiting them to certain places, are you ok with banning them except for specific people as they currently are?

A gun, is a gun, is a gun.
 
fenceline said:
How many people in government don't see a need for you to own a semi auto? A bolt action? A single shot?
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rdavidson said:
All of them
I just don't see the need for FA
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If you are saying you don't support others wanting to own a type of gun, then you can welcome yourself to the anti side of the fence.

If you are saying you don't see a need for yourself to own a full auto, but you support others if they want to, then you get the point.
 
bobbynewmark said:
I voted maybe..

I think with the right controls in place, in the safest of controlled environments (i.e. special full auto ranges, or specific times for them on a multi-discipline ranges), there should really be no problem. I am not into 'banning' and prohibitions..

I think the elephant in the room is perhaps seeing them on the streets after they get stolen from a licensed owner.. Libtards would s**t a brick if there was a full-auto shoot-out. I realize this has never happened here, yet there has been very few FA around and they have been locked away for decades. It is a different (gangsta) world out there now. I think this is the biggest hurdle

Also this will be a rich kids club.. those guns and the ammo they eat are not cheap... So a very small sub-group of an already tiny minority of the population (gun owners) are not going to get a lot of traction.. IMHO anyway, though I may be mistaken :)
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where have you seen a fire fight on the streets even with semi auto so why all the unwarranted fear for full auto?
 
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