Do You Support Ownership of FA (full auto) Firearms?

[Aries-]

So if I had a full auto and offered to let you shoot you would decline?

full auto really doesn't do much for me, i have always been about precision, i was annoyed at myself when my hunting rifle was getting 2 inches at 150 yards (black powder traditional cap lock). took me forever to realize that the kill area on a deer if about 4x's that size.

depending on how much the ammo was, i might shoot it.

 

[alberta tactical rifle]

I voted YES as I firmly believe there is no such thing as an evil or "bad" gun. There certainly are some crap guns, but even they should not be controlled. The problem is that the government can not place the controls on bad people as easily as they can inanimate objects.
What needs to change is the way the legal (as there is NO justice system) system deals with offender that break the laws, but that is only dreaming for us law abiding types and will NEVER happen as long as the country is run by misguided bleeding hearts who reward those who are "misunderstood" for their actions.

Back ground checks and proper ID for licensing I have no problem with, some more in-depth safety training may not be a bad plan. The problem then is who can provide it?

Rocks and sticks were the first assault weapons, but why is the government not trying to ban or place controls rocks or sticks?

 

[tjhaile]

Yes, with no different restrictions from any other firearm:

1. The whole point of RKBA is that private individuals be free to own weapons at least as good as the government's.
2. The purpose of law should be to address actual wrongs done to specific individuals, rather than inanimate objects.

 

[mudgunner49]

I'd like to send a big ******** ! out to everyone who voted no. You are no better than the anti's. The pathetic mewling about how YOU don't see any reason to own full auto's therefore YOU don't think anyone else should be able to own one makes me want to hit you with something heavy.

Our society is not based on what YOU think other people should do with their money. Would like it for me to come into your home and decide what YOU should or should not have? Probably not, so why not pull your head out of your ass and give the rest of us the benefit of the doubt?

****, I was having a good day till I read this BS ......

Yeah - this ^^^^^^^^...

Some of you people out there shouldn't be trusted with anything sharper than a Twinkie and you think you're qualified to tell me what I sould have and be able to do with my own property???

How many legal owners in Canada have committed a crime with a FA??? That's right - none. So what makes you think that having more legal owners out there will make a difference??? Buncha glue eaters...


blake

 

[mudgunner49]

There is no such thing.

As an aside, remember, there are no evil, dangerous guns, just evil, dangerous people.

WRT FA Ar15's, there most certainly is such a thing. The original AR'15's produced for teh AirForce during VietNam were slick sided (no forward assist) and marked AR15...

 

[airtruck63chev]

full auto has a switch , just like a fast car , you have a choice to push that pedal to the floor. it's about having the choice... what if all cars came with a throttle stop for a set speed to keep us from doing something illegal and would engage ie: in a school zone cars would automatically drop speed to set limit, think of the children...hmmm we could prob see this in the near future with wireless tech and computerized cars ..speed limit for everybody!!!

 

[jwillmoore]

Very disappointed to see so many people voting no.

I don't see a big difference between a semi and full auto since the mags will most probably be restricted.
Criminals have FA rifles they seem to be able to buy them by the truck load but law abiding people have to jump through hoops for an NRPal. How is that for a world gone mad.

 

[blaxsun]

Very disappointed to see so many people voting no.

Why? It's not like everyone is going to agree on everything anyway... And in any event, it's less than 10%. It's a private poll so I'm sure some just voted that way to skew the numbers and see if they could get a rise out of a few...

full auto has a switch , just like a fast car , you have a choice to push that pedal to the floor. it's about having the choice... what if all cars came with a throttle stop for a set speed to keep us from doing something illegal and would engage

You mean like a speed governor?

 

[jdman]

Do you Support FA Firearm Ownership?

absofrickinlootley!

where do i sign up?

 

[Lee Enfield]

That was the whole point of the poll. The requirements were based on the same NFA regulations in the US. I actually neglected two additional requirements: 1. The meticulous attention to detail when submitting an application (which can entail a 6-12 month transfer period) and 2. That all FA firearms are transferred through a Class-3 firearms dealer (or in Canada, one with a prohibited business license).

"Face to face" transfers of Class 3 firearms is possible in the US. The dealer only comes it if you are transferring to an individual in another state.

All interstate transfers of non-antique firearms in the US have to go dealer to dealer since GCA'68.

 

[Suputin]

The full auto firearm would increase the injuries and fatalities.

That is a ludicrous argument. It is the projectile that creates the injury and the rate of fire doesn't change that.

In a crowded area, 5 bullets per second will do more damage than 1 bullet per second

This is an equally ludicrous argument. Where exactly are you getting yur firearms knowledge?

The only important things to consider are the number of rounds that can be carried and fed into the firearm and the amount of time the killer has to shoot people undisturbed. The rate of fire is irrelevant.

James Whitman killed dozens with a bolt action rifle. Anders Brevik killed dozens more with a semi auto rifle.

Funny to see people get named as liberals just because they do not agree with the majority of CGN'ners

Discussion and disagreement is fine. It is ACTING and TALKING like a lieberal that will get you labelled as such here. In case you haven't noticed, the exact same arguments you are using to deny fellow gun owners a type of firearm is the same arguments the antis use to try to deny us all firearms. The thing that some gun owners just don't seem to get is that we must stick together or we will all hang separately.

Gun grabbers don't just want to ban one kind of firearm. They want to ban them all and if you won't stand up for all your brother gun owners, why should any of us stand up for your guns when the antis decide to target the things you like?

 

[EDX2308]

More people die from automatic vehicles than from automatic weapons (in Western industrialized nations anyhow).

 

[Suputin]

I see these polls as nothing more than an attempt to get CGNers mad at each other and fracture the community. I saw them go up yesterday, and I knew this ugliness would happen. This community does not need that kind of poll. Speech is free, and Blaxsun can do what he wants on this web site as long as the admins agree with it, but I am not sure that his agenda is to improve the life of gun owners in Canada.

The community is already fractured. Go to a skeet and trap club and try to talk about handguns or black rifles and see how oh make out. It is only by these kinds of discussions that we can get the Fudds to understand how wrong their opinions are.

 

[Dagmaar]

I would vote yes except for the part about them being prohibitively expensive and scarcely available .
Why should only the wealthy be able to afford them ?

My reasoning is this ; I want one , I want one , I want one .
Oh , and I'm not a danger to anything but " approved " targets .
That is all .

 

[8 ball]

Voted yes. I believe that we should be able to own and shoot full auto with a regular firearms license.

 

[sapper043]

Aren't drugs and murder prohibited already. Then we should be good with F/A. Oh wait law abiding people already own F/A and their not killing people but they must be scary people that eat children and use thier F/A to lure them in. Nope that not happening either.

F/A would be nice but I would need a new job to feed them, but I should be allowed to own one (RPAL) and the mag limits needs to change too.

 

[Kevin M.]

Nice rant, Kevin! ------------- Was that therapeutic?

Darn right it was. My stress levels dropped right after that rant.

I am pretty sure many people in Canada, and even some people on this site should not be allowed around a set of scissors or a knife, after all, who knows, they might just stab sombody with it, because common sense, self-control, and personal responsibility appear to be rapidly fading into distant memory.

 

[can14]

I spent a lot of money going to court over registering FA's. No one was of any help in the firearm's community when it came to the cost. FA collector's were considered "Bad" by the firearms community. Everyone hid out and waited for the result. So the court waited until December 1978 to allow various transfer's. There was no time for the rest to be included. So it set up the various restrictions that came in 1979 that you you now live with...short barreled pistols, CA rifles etc. FA's isn't about magazine capacity. Five round magazine restrictions hasn't stopped people from buying Norinco m14, AR15's etc. Having gun's restricted to your house hasn't stopped people from collecting them! I would bet that there are more people without carry permits that collect firearms than have them. The firearm's community only has itself to blame for the restrictions that it has to live with because there is a total lack of financial support for court case's to make change.

 

[ted_dent]

EVERYBODY WHO VOTED YES GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.


Sure I would love to own full auto but if you stopped for one second to think what it would be like you would realize it is not realistic. Can you imagine all the hill-billy fudds they already have at the ranges shooting like retards with their sks's? Now add full auto the mix and people will be getting killed very fast. Not to mention getting the CFO to certify a range for full auto use would be next to impossible.

Keep living in your fantasy world guys.

Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot. 30-40 guys on the line shooting every full auto imaginable. Millions of rounds expended, no shooting fatalities in over 30 years. Kind of craps on your logic, doesn't it?

 

[Kevin M.]

Don't forget the dozens of other large FA events in the states.

Big sandy, Knob Creek, Oklahoma, etc.

I was in the states two weeks ago and got some good trigger time on four different FA firearms. There is no magical killing potential behind them. All the basics still apply, and if people who are allowed to own restricted rifles and handguns of various types, then there is no reasonable reason not to allow FA with another scale of liscense, just like CC/OC.