Does anyone have a 10/22 that shoots this well?

[10mark22]

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If you are shooting those kind of groups at 50 and 100 all day with a marlin 60, let's see 'em I want proof. High end rimfires have trouble shooting consistent small groups at 100 and Home3"s Marlin will do it at 100 m all day. I call BS.
The OP wanted to know if anyone has a 10/22 that shoots this well. The answer is yes, but be prepared to spend extra $. It's about creating a personalized rifle that no one else can just buy. I have several that have only a few Ruger parts in them, the bolt and some parts in the trigger group. Shoot very well, capable of sub 1/2" groups if the trigger man does his job. Why should Ruger try to make them better, when the average buyer buys with the intent of modifying anyway? There's no incentive to make them better. With a better trigger, chamber, and crown, they will shoot those tiny groups, I know, I did it. Lawyers have a lot to do with it.

 

[mikeystew]

If you are shooting those kind of groups at 50 and 100 all day with a marlin 60, let's see 'em I want proof. High end rimfires have trouble shooting consistent small groups at 100 and Home3"s Marlin will do it at 100 m all day. I call BS.
The OP wanted to know if anyone has a 10/22 that shoots this well. The answer is yes, but be prepared to spend extra $. It's about creating a personalized rifle that no one else can just buy. I have several that have only a few Ruger parts in them, the bolt and some parts in the trigger group. Shoot very well, capable of sub 1/2" groups if the trigger man does his job. Why should Ruger try to make them better, when the average buyer buys with the intent of modifying anyway? There's no incentive to make them better. With a better trigger, chamber, and crown, they will shoot those tiny groups, I know, I did it. Lawyers have a lot to do with it.

I can tell by your user name you are likely bias. But I agree that a marlin can not shoot as tight at 100m as a frankenruger does at 50m. Thats is elementary.

However, I do not wish to confuse an average 10/22 with a $1000+ custom rifle. Just because it started life as a 10/22 does not make it one. It is a custom rifle... Period. And, many of these custom rifles still, will not perform any better than a stock marlin... Fact.

So would you like to see some targets shot with a stock marlin? I'll show some but I'd like to see some targets shot with a 10/22, NOT a tricked out custom rifle, a stock 10/22 with no more than say... $350 invested into the whole shebang. Then we are comparing apples to apples.

60ss with 4x scope, 10 rounds @ 50m, no wind, CCI standard velocity (paper box).
10 ring is 1" diameter.
Admittedly these are the best groups I've shot with this gun, hence the desire to photograph them. Also, this is one of the only times I've ever stretched it out to 100m.
50m

100m 10 rounds (maybe 9? I thought i shot 10...), same conditions.

How about my papoose? which... For some bizarre reason shoots as good as my 60ss.
3.5 lb, 16" barrel takedown with 4x scope.
25m, no wind, CCI standard velocity, 14 rounds rapid fire, 7 rounds slow fire. Inner circle is 1"

50m same conditions. 14 rounds slow fire, in two 7 shot strings (mag cap). Inner square is 1"- 1.25" roughly.

I'm not saying I can shoot like this all the time, but it shows how plain ol'silly accurate the marlin semi's are.

Now i'd like to see those stock 10/22 groupings. Heck, let's see the frankenruger groupings and see how much better they shoot than the stock marlins for the extra $700 invested.

 

[mikeystew]

And to think there are people out there buying $1500 Anschutzs that could have bought a Marlin. Wow.

Well, while it's no anschutz i've taken the scope off my 60ss before and shot side by side with some pretty accurate target rifles in open sight benchrest matches... For shnits and giggles. with iron sights no less. This particular day it was only me and one other person who showed up in the crappy weather to shoot, but i think the scores speak for themselves regardless how many people were on the firing line.

http://www.gabriolargcc.com/media/50m_RF_Results_Sep15-11.pdf

That said, it does not shoot as tight as an anschutz... but it also costs $1300 less, so i guess you get more than what you pay for. With marlin that is.

 

[10mark22]

Recrowned, rechambered, trigger lightened, bedded, 50 yds, Win Xpert and Wolf MT. The PD target is 1" squares with Eagle HPs and this gun at 100,

You are right, they should perhaps be called 10/22 Variants, as most only resemble the original design. Also, I believe that testing rifles for accuracy should involve an NRA type 20 bull target, with one shot per each bull. That is much harder to do than shooting for groups, also shows a shooter's skills. Showing the best groups from a rifle is not necessarily the best either, an average of 50 groups would be a better choice. I have a 77/22 that has a best group of about .030", but it is not capable of that all day, and neither am I. I take exception to the notion that any sub $1000 22lr is capable of COSISTENT small groups at 100. Too many variables at 100 yds for lr.

 

[mikeystew]

Recrowned, rechambered, trigger lightened, bedded, 50 yds, Win Xpert and Wolf MT. The PD target is 1" squares with Eagle HPs and this gun at 100,

Those are nice looking guns and groups. I dont really want to argue over this issue, I know they are 2 different animals and everybody has the right to like what they want. There are MANY of you guys who are into tricking out the 10/22. I just love ( as many people here know) Marlin rimfires, i find they perform shockingly well for their price point, and i dont mind having a less than unique rifle if it does what i want very well, at a price i cant refuse, right out of the box with no modifications.

It's just a peeve of mine when people say "my 10/22 with an 18x scope shoots as good or better than your $200 marlin, all i did to it was this, and this, and this, and this, and this,... and Im into it for over a grand..."

Ahem...

Anyway like i said, i dont want to argue about it. Apples to oranges. You have a couple nice looking great shooting guns there.

Here's my babies! Not the flashiest, but i think they are pretty enough. Well,,, maybe not the papoose, that thing is ugly. But i love it anyway.

60ss without the scope

 

[Courtntan]

Awesome, every 10/22 thread the Marlin fanboys jump in and spam it up with "Look what my cheap, second hand, 12 million round count and never cleaned Miracle rifle will do." Nobody browsing a 10/22 thread cares. Why don't you guys start your own thread, you can call it "My Marlin is the best thing that ever happened to me!" and all post pics of your one holed 300 yard, 25 round groups, all shot with Remington Thunderbolts. There's a reason that Ruger is the number one selling rimfire of all time. When your superior Marlins, have all the aftermarket options and sales numbers the Ruger has achieved, then I'll convert, until then take it someplace else.

 

[mikeystew]

Awesome, every 10/22 thread the Marlin fanboys jump in and spam it up with "Look what my cheap, second hand, 12 million round count and never cleaned Miracle rifle will do." Nobody browsing a 10/22 thread cares. Why don't you guys start your own thread, you can call it "My Marlin is the best thing that ever happened to me!" and all post pics of your one holed 300 yard, 25 round groups, all shot with Remington Thunderbolts. There's a reason that Ruger is the number one selling rimfire of all time. When your superior Marlins, have all the aftermarket options and sales numbers the Ruger has achieved, then I'll convert, until then take it someplace else.

Look up on Wikipedia marlin 60, and ruger 10/22. You'll see that the M60 has over double the numbers produced at 11 million. 10/22 is just over 5 million.

As for the aftermarket stuff... well, people just love spending money to feel like their gun is somehow special dont they.

 

[icedragonmx]

And, many of these custom rifles still, will not perform any better than a stock marlin... Fact.

50m

Heck, let's see the frankenruger groupings and see how much better they shoot than the stock marlins for the extra $700 invested.

Ya OK
50 Yards with the flyer...

 

[mikeystew]

Ya OK
50 Yards with the flyer...

Yeah, that looks WAY smaller than my 50m group. How much did your rifle cost?

 

[icedragonmx]

Yeah, that looks WAY smaller than my 50m group. How much did your rifle cost?

$800 for the rifle-worth the extra cost don't you think?

 

[Courtntan]

Look up on Wikipedia marlin 60, and ruger 10/22. You'll see that the M60 has over double the numbers produced at 11 million. 10/22 is just over 5 million.

As for the aftermarket stuff... well, people just love spending money to feel like their gun is somehow special dont they.

They're still trying to sell 6.5 million Marlins, that's why you can buy them for such a bargain. I guess I should have wikied it, I just took all the articles I've read stating the 10/22 to be the most popular rimfire ever to mean they've sold the most. My mistake, I make them once and a while, oh well. Anyways I've got to cut this short, there's a thread just bellow this asking opinions on the model 60 that I feel I should post in. The guy probably wants to hear how great my Custom 10/22 shoots.

I did notice that you hadn't posted any opinions in that thread on how well your Marlin works. I guess it's better to run down everyone else choice of rifle, then to actually help a guy looking for opinions on a gun that your obviously so familiar with.

 

[mikeystew]

They're still trying to sell 6.5 million Marlins, that's why you can buy them for such a bargain. I guess I should have wikied it, I just took all the articles I've read stating the 10/22 to be the most popular rimfire ever to mean they've sold the most. My mistake, I make them once and a while, oh well. Anyways I've got to cut this short, there's a thread just bellow this asking opinions on the model 60 that I feel I should post in. The guy probably wants to hear how great my Custom 10/22 shoots.

I did notice that you hadn't posted any opinions in that thread on how well your Marlin works. I guess it's better to run down everyone else choice of rifle, then to actually help a guy looking for opinions on a gun that your obviously so familiar with.

Well in all honesty, those numbers on wikipedia might be off by a bit. Frankly I'm pretty sure I've seen nearly 4 million 10/22's for sale in the EE alone over the last several years. Well... 10/22 variants that is, custom jobs.

Regarding the thread about Model 60's down below, he's asking about new 60's made by Remington. Sorry, I don't have any experience there. But thanks for noticing.

Again, I'm not trying to run down other peoples choices. I'm simply trying to give perspective.

 

[savagelh]

For what its worth, I have 4 10/22's and a marlin 60. I'm currently trying to sell the 60. It shoots fine and hasn't jammed but its just not for me. I'd trade it for another 10/22 in a heartbeat. I think one of the reasons you don't see them come up in the EE is that they are hardly worth re-selling. For the $150 that I might get for it I might as well just give it somebody thats just getting into firearms. My 10/22's shoot very well and they are mosty factory parts but its great to have the option to use aftermarket as well. Also its nice to know that they are worth something if I ever need the money.

 

[rick43pen]

To my way of thinking they are rifles for different kinds of people. Your marlin 60 people are the ones who like the classic cars. The 10/22 people like the same classic cars, they just have to add a nitro blower and mag wheels and the jumping jack suspension.