Does Nobody Want Keltec RFB's Anymore??????
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I'd love to see that.
Sorry, that wasn't all aimed at you, your comment just got me started.
You are really full of**** ...so you open a tread not seaking any info, no you felt like open a tread to bash a firearm you shot once at a range that was not yours and probably not properly set and or bad mags. You did not have a good experience so OMG ITS A PEACE OF ***** , ITS 4 moa gun! FFS! Is my ddm4v5 a piece of **** cause its shoots 6 moa with norinco 223 surplus?????????? I guess so even if its shoot around 1-1.5 with cheap winchester 55gr.
Seriously have you ben shooting for more then 2 monts? ( I know you have) but comme on use your brain! My mini 14 has fte and ftf all the times does that means that all mini 14 are 50 $ gun and that all sks are better?
A peice of crap ffs.....
Done with WAL-MART winchester silver tip 168 gr. And a 3x scope by a poor shot, yep a real 400 $ 4 moa gun....GENIUS! !!!
That doesn't look much better than 4 moa...what distance did you shoot that at?
^here we go again
Setting up the RFB for hunting, these were the last rounds of the day after the scope and gas system was dialed in:
100yds shooting 180gr factory loaded nosler partitions
(excuse the crappy cell phone pic)
You and all the RFB owners that love them are absolutely right...who cares what someone else thinks? I am totally on board with that....except when people on this board ask honest questions on the attributes of certain firearms.
If you were shelling out close on $3000 for a rifle with all the bits and you had issues with accuracy or reliability after the fact, wouldn't you feel a bit p!ssed at those calling it something it wasn't?
Look you guys, you want to call two or three rounds a group and claim that is what it is capable of, feel free to tell yourself that. You all shoot way better on the Internet than the majority of national champions in various disciplines - sure, whatever gets you to sleep at night, but please try to be genuine with the rest of the members here. Most of us know you're full of sh!t anyhow.
You shot one RFB and it probably wasn't set up correctly and probably had sh!t magazines which is why you had reliability issues and you were probably shooting ammo it didn't like which is why your groups were large.
I found it was awkward to use off a bench but excels in the field shooting offhand at a deer or whatever else you want a hole in. It rides a sling beautifully while quadding or hiking and is great for packing through the bush.
My RFB will shoot 5 round 1.5 MOA groups with handloads and between 2 and 4 MOA with the couple other factory loads I tried in it. The rifle was never advertised as a sniper rifle and doesn't need to shoot MOA to be a good rifle. I have around 500 rounds through mine and it has never had a failure once the gas system is set correctly for the load being used. This rifle shoots just as well as an XCR-M and is at least as reliable for the same price.
Just because you don't know how to set up the gas system or the guy that owned it had sh!t mags and didn't do any load testing to see what his liked which led you to have a bad experience with it and now you don't like it doesn't make it crap. All it means is you don't have to buy one. That's your choice. One bad day with one rifle doesn't make them all crap.
I can't wait to get an RFB. I shot one at the range and it seems like a perfect thick cover rifle, also good for 400 yard shots on deer. Loved the ergonomics of it. If it's 1.5 MOA that's fine for hunting. Lots of deer, moose and elk have died to 3 MOA shooting rifles! 
I can't wait to get an RFB. I shot one at the range and it seems like a perfect thick cover rifle, also good for 400 yard shots on deer. Loved the ergonomics of it. If it's 1.5 MOA that's fine for hunting. Lots of deer, moose and elk have died to 3 MOA shooting rifles!
I'm not sure I would go 400yds on a deer. That's turning into a 8 inch hit zone at best if you do your job perfectly. I would keep it to 200-250yds to ensure a quick humane kill.
1.5-2MOA is handload accuracy and you may do that well if your lucky and you find a premium factory load your rifle likes. I for one don't like chasing a wounded deer for a kilometer into the bush.
I would see what the accuracy is of the rifle, and go with what it can do. If it's a 1.5MOA shooter it should be able to easily hit a deer kill zone at 400- if you can get a proper rest in a field position with the rifle. SInce I didn't try shooting it prone or anything, I'm not sure of how well it responds to anythign but offhand shooting.
Why are you here repeating yourself over and over again? yeah we heard you the first time. You're not sharing anything new the umpteenth time you post the same opinion. It's like you won't quit until we all agree with you that the RFB is crap and we should all crush them with a steam roller.
i'm a quarter of the way to owning one, but i'm not too worried. Nutnfancy on youtube has reviewed one and put it through his "run'n'gun" series. if it's fragile it seems to me it would've been caught in those videos. he tends to put the guns he reviews through some pretty rough stuff and regularly breaks some. I think there was one vid where Chad consistently rings a gong at 508 yards, so accuracy can't be that bad. though he does mention that it's picky with ammo. According to the dealer i go to, they did have problems with the gas system in the first generation. but they've since modified the system some time back in 2011 i think
from multiple reviewers it seems to like 165 and 168 grain ammo, of which they claim gets them around 1.5moa. more common 147gr seems to get 3-4 moa which i'm taking a guess is what most canadian buyers are using. .308 is expensive and there aren't very many options on the lower end. I'd bet money that most people buying a bullpup semi auto for plinking are also of the mindset of buying the cheapest bulk ammo they can find. Most suggest it's good with heavier rounds anything above 165gr will give you acceptable accuracy and better as the weight increases.
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We should do away with all the 858 platforms as well.... Many suffered from gremlins in the trigger and what not so.... the AK platform, can't possibly be reliable.
Glocks are known to go ka-boom on occasion so they should be taken off the market.
Beretta 92's cracked a few frames / slides over the years so they should no longer be produced and even the occasional Sig Green suffers an occasional FTF, FTE so that's overpriced garbage.
Did I mention I observed a "top tier" AR15 blow apart? They should all be recalled.
The owners of these model guns / platforms say they are good guns but I guess they are all full of sh*t.
Obviously by gauging the repeat posts you are making there is no changing your mind. If you have an issue with an RFB for whatever reason then so be it but your *opinion* should in no way be taken as blanket fact that all are the same. If the RFB doesn't suit you then so be it.
As far as being genuine .. I am. My experience with my RFB has been positive. It shoots fine for me and I genuinely like it for what it is. Do I hold it to the same level of performance as my target guns? Certainly not (my classic green did not shoot to that level either) but they are by no means garbage or close to it. Does that mean all RFB's are perfect? No but there is no platform out there that is.. or is there?
I have both & enjoy them both. XCR-M is very front heavy. RFB is more balanced and compact but harder to shoot benched. Both shoot well. You would be wise to upgrade the OEM mag on the XCR-M with a magpul. Once you learn the platforms you will be pleasantly surprised.
Not to be a ####, but most owners don't know what they are on about and they wouldn't be able to tell the performance difference between the rfb and fn scar 17 if it slapped them across the face. And I assure you, there is a performance difference, when it comes to how well one runs over the long run vs the other.
A few people like cr5 have a clear defined goal and is perfectly honest about the limitations of his rifles. I have met more than one rfb owner that have lost their sh*t on me if I said even one thing that was not nice about their beloved rifle. Granted this is a trait that is not exclusive to rfb owners, plenty of other owners of different guns get butthurt over the smallest pointed flaws of their rifle. But my point is the rfb while loved by its owners definitely has its shortcomings, and the logical fans of it like cr5 or brian 46 will agree with me while it has its merits from the legal perspective, it is far from the best 308 semi in the world.
If you love yours, wonderful. But if you want to claim none can beat it, i will be happy to prove you wrong. P.S. an XCR M is not really that high a bar to surpass. Any XCR for that matter. But that's another topic for another time
