Does shooting Norinco .223 lower the resale value of an AR?
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Faster than a speeding bullet
Depends on the length of the barrel, I've heard it's a little hotter than standard 5.56 though.
And how would you maintain your rifle to prevent brass shavings and excessive fouling from shooting Norinco ammo? You can clean it up afterward but I don't see how you could stop it from happening in the first place.
Just because you haven't had a problem with it yet doesn't mean that a high number of others haven't already experienced the problems mentioned. As long as you understand that by choosing to run Norinco you are running a higher risk to your safety and your rifle then that's your call. To me though, there have been way too many reports of problems with it to risk my rifles or my safety just to save a few dollars.
I'm not telling anyone they should't shoot it, only that I won't buy a rifle or barrel from someone who will admit to using it.
Go back in the threads and read them for yourself, there were two or three threads a week with people having issues.
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Faster than a speeding bullet
Depends on the length of the barrel, I've heard it's a little hotter than standard 5.56 though.
And how would you maintain your rifle to prevent brass shavings and excessive fouling from shooting Norinco ammo? You can clean it up afterward but I don't see how you could stop it from happening in the first place.
Just because you haven't had a problem with it yet doesn't mean that a high number of others haven't already experienced the problems mentioned. As long as you understand that by choosing to run Norinco you are running a higher risk to your safety and your rifle then that's your call. To me though, there have been way too many reports of problems with it to risk my rifles or my safety just to save a few dollars.
I'm not telling anyone they should't shoot it, only that I won't buy a rifle or barrel from someone who will admit to using it.
Go back in the threads and read them for yourself, there were two or three threads a week with people having issues.
Have you even shot Norinco?
Newfie_1986
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Well I'm going shooting tomorrow, I have quite a stock pile of Norinco and plan to shoot it all up. (not all of it at one time ) Guess if I decide to get rid of my Stag ar 15's I will have to give them away !
) Guess if I decide to get rid of my Stag ar 15's I will have to give them away !Not through my rifles but I've been shooting with buddies using it. One guy's scoped XCR was making 4-5 inch groups at 100 yards with Norinco so I gave him some American Eagle and his groups shrank to around 3 inches. We also noticed how dirty the rifle was at the end of the day. It all went bang and didn't blow up his rifle but that was enough for him to sell the rest of his crate.
We didn't chronograph any of it but it wouldn't matter unless someone else was wondering it's velocity with the same length barrel.
Just be happy myself and so many others don't like it, leaves more for the rest of you.
Yup.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...24-American-Eagle-62gr-vs-AE-55gr-vs-norc55gr
Out of a 16.5 it was 3120ish. White box stuff. pretty zippy.
good. don't use it, more for us
i've shot it, no issues with "shavings" or bits rattling about. is it dirtier than others? maybe, to me the entire DI concept is inherently dirty and i clean the rifle after every session. i haven't noticed needing extra effort involved after shooting norinco compared to ae or any other brand.
Newfie_1986
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Well went out the St. John's Rod and Gun Club this afternoon. Shot off 345 rounds of Norinco. Guess if I sell my gun now, I will have to sell it for $50 ;-)
Oh and in 345 rounds of ammo fired no FTF, FTE, Split cases or other non sense. I also shot 40 rounds of MFS just to make sure I really violated my AR
Oh and in 345 rounds of ammo fired no FTF, FTE, Split cases or other non sense. I also shot 40 rounds of MFS just to make sure I really violated my AR
Well went out the St. John's Rod and Gun Club this afternoon. Shot off 345 rounds of Norinco. Guess if I sell my gun now, I will have to sell it for $50 ;-)
Oh and in 345 rounds of ammo fired no FTF, FTE, Split cases or other non sense. I also shot 40 rounds of MFS just to make sure I really violated my AR
And you survived?!? Mother of God, after reading this thread I would have thought your gun would have exploded, or you were severely maimed, but you're saying nothing happened, your #### didn't even fall off?
I'm on my third case now. I've found it to be reasonably accurate and haven't had any major problems, except a few light primer strikes that won't set the round off. I've been to many 3-gun competitions and rifle clinics and light strikes seem to be the biggest complaint about Norc ammo I hear from others as well. It's cheap practice ammo but I wouldn't want my life to depend on it or use it for an important competition.
Newfie_1986
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I survived, looks like I wore a motorcycle helmet while shooting this stuff for no reason. Actually truthfully my left nut fell off, you should really sell me all your horrible Norinco 5.56 for .20 cents a round so I can safely dispose of it for you. Wouldn't want to see a fellow gun nut meet the same fate as me and loose a nut. ;-)
All this foolishness about ammo, just like corrosive will make your gun rust away in a day or two if you don't clean it. Left my VZ 58 for a month without cleaning it after 250 rounds of corrosive, only had a little rust on the bolt face when I got around to cleaning it.
Oh well more cheap ammo for me !
... I shot over 2000 rounds of Norinco before cleaning my gun. Maybe it's broken...
Yeah, AR's.
Playing with the buffer weight and/or using an adjustable gas block to get it running just right.
Chances are, if you buy a complete AR off the shelf of a decent name brand, it comes pre tuned.
If you build it yourself, some barrel makers may over compensate when they size the gas port making for an overgassed and aggressive cycling action when using stock buffer weights and straight gassed.
Norinco seems to be hot ammo, so it can drive your action hard. This can explain some of the issues people report.
In my case, I deliberately tuned my rifles to run it, so it works with no problems, and actually burns very clean.
Please feel free to share where to find a few stray cases of Norc?
Maybe you should have gave your buddy a screwdriver to tighten up his scope mounts...my XCR shoots AE into groups half that size.
......or maybe he's just a poor shot?
......or maybe his XCR DOES in fact shoot sub 1.5MOA,but you feel the need to report 3MOA in an attempt to justify buying custom barrels and pricey ammo only to be outshot by a Norc eating Robinson?
