A)that's BS
B)I was about to apologise for insinuating in a previous post that you might be biased towards your guns &ammo and/or another XCR basher,until.........see (A)
C)I absolutely respect your right to choose wutever ammo you want and likewise boycott any brand as well......but if you honestly would refuse to buy a rifle based solely on it's previous diet of Norc.......sorry dude,that's borderline insanity and likely certifiable OCD.
Here we go again,
Do you honestly think that just because your rifle shoots fairly consistently that all XCR's do? Let's see some pictures of some targets if it's so accurate. Have you ever actually seen anyone else able to post pictures of an XCR-L shooting consistently? Every single picture I've ever seen of a tight group shot from an XCR-L has been a picture of a target with 20 holes in it with circle around the 5 closest ones or a picture of 5 rounds with 3 close together and 2 flyers or called pull's. Over the years since it was released in Canada I've shot 4 or 5 XCR-L's in 223, one in 6.8SPC and 2 XCR-M's and none of them were remotely close to being capable of shooting 1 moa. Granted, I haven't shot the new keymod version but I have handled a couple of them and I hear they are better than the old ones but I have yet to see anyone actually prove that they can shoot any better.
I am not biased, I love all firearms and I've wanted an XCR since before they came to Canada, I'm glad I held off and waited for some community feedback before I bought one though. Two of my friends bought earlier models and were very disappointed so I waited for the next revision, then they were getting similar reviews and still the accuracy was lacking. Every revision has improved the rifle and I think they are getting close to getting it right but since accuracy is one of my deciding factors I still can't justify the purchase of one. I understand it was designed as a battle rifle and that it wasn't designed to produce anything better than the 2-3 moa that is common from the platform but when I can have my ACR shoot around 1 moa most of the time I don't see why I would ever go with an XCR.
Now that I have 3 non restricted caliber conversions for my ACR and after playing with it side by side with a couple XCR's I probably won't ever buy an XCR. For the average guy these days who isn't willing to do any work himself and wants a non restricted rifle capable of caliber conversions then the XCR is a better choice but since I enjoy tinkering with my rifles and I know a great barrel maker I can have exactly the rifle I want. From my experience so far the ACR is the best black rifle option available to us in Canada right now. Other than the lack of support for the platform it is an incredible rifle. I have a few thousand rounds through mine without a failure that couldn't be attributed to operator error or a bad magazine. My non restricted 300 Blackout conversion is 100% reliable, and also capable of shooting sub moa with my handloads. You can run 7.62x39 though your XCR but I feel the 300BLK offers everything the x39 does and so much more.
When I find a rifle that I feel is better than the ACR I'll be selling the ACR and buying a new toy just like I have with all the other non restricted black rifles I've owned before the ACR came along.
And no it isn't insanity or OCD if I won't buy a rifle that has been fed Norc. You've been on this forum long enough that you must have seen all the threads from guys having issues with their rifles from using Norc ammo, that's the thing I don't understand about a lot of the guys on this forum. Does no one learn from others misfortunes any more? When two or three guys a week come on and explain problems from shooting this ammo doesn't that make you wonder if you should be using it in your $2500 rifle? So many have the attitude that since it hasn't happened to me yet it must be fine. Sure it's probably one round out of 10000 that is loaded incorrectly but eventually the odds are bound to catch up to you. There is no way on earth that Norinco listened to customer feedback and has improved the product since it's all bulk surplus that has been sitting in a warehouse somewhere for years so chances are we will hear about more problems before the supply dries up.
If it makes you feel any better, if I had a Norinco AR I would probably buy the cheapest ammo I could get my hands on which would be this junk but not for my $2000+ rifles or the $500 stainless barrel that is in my ACR.
I look at it like running regular unleaded in my modified Impreza WRX or in one of my dirtbikes, it won't blow the motor immediately but it's not going to be good for it's long term performance or reliability. If I couldn't afford to run premium fuel I would sell the car and buy something cheaper that got better mileage and ran safely on regular unleaded. Why buy a top of the line vehicle or rifle then feed it the cheapest fuel you can get your hands on? Most of the time in life (not always) you get out what you put in and this is almost always true with vehicles and firearms.
If you could afford a corvette and had one sitting in your driveway would you fill it with regular unleaded because it's cheaper and would save you $5.00 per fill? If you said yes you are a fool and you can expect to be spending much more money on repairs over the time you own that car.
As I've said before, you and everyone else is free to have your opinion and do whatever you want but I also have that right and I chose not to run cheap crappy ammo and I reserve the right not to buy a used rifle or barrel from someone who has either. That's a decision I've made and nothing is going to change my mind.
I also realize that many on this site would simply say that they have never run Norinco ammo which is why I haven't bought a used black rifle from this site for a long time.
Enjoy your ammo while it lasts and I hope we don't have anymore guys have problems with it before the supply dries up.
