Don't take your Black Rifle to PoCo!

Six Star said:
I'll have to really think about that one....it's not the first run-in that I've had with these old fools at PoCo, who don't seem to understand that they are attacking themselves...

It's unfortunate there are gun owners like that. :confused: They just don't get it.
I'm getting back into shooting and kinda got worried when I read the post title. PoCo was the range I was planning to use. But after reading it.. no real worries... more black rifles should come out. I just happen to be setting up a shorty AR. When it's ready I'll take it to PoCo.
 
BC_Guy said:
I shoot AR's there constantly, it's almost the only thing I shoot. There's no shortage of other AR guys, either. I've heard a little BS from hunters once and a while, but never anything like this.

I've had agro from both hunters and "range" shooters, but this is not only the first time I've had the cops show up, it's the first time I've EVER had the cops called on me. :( And I thought I was amongst like-minded friends.

BC_Guy said:
John's a good guy, it's not his or the range's fault, it's the fault of one tool at the range who wouldn't know his @ss from a hole in the ground. I hope you are reading this, you idiot.

Yes, John is a VERY good guy and I know that it wasn't his fault...he has helped me out more times than I can remember. I feel bad for letting him have it in front of the cops, but it was more out of embarrassment than anything else, and I'll probably apologize to him for it now that I've cooled down a bit. ;)
 
Six Star said:
I'm starting to warm up to this idea....Being a manager, I couldn't organize a fart in a bean factory...:D . Anybody else want to get on board with this? If there's enough interest, we can plan on a group show of strength and unity with our "evil" Black Rifles. :cool:
I can see the old farts now...:runaway:

I think Chozen1 has been trying to get this going for some time. I'm not sure how successful he has been with it, perhaps he will chime in.
 
jjwelin said:
kudos to that mountie... Do yourself and him a favor, and call his S.Sgt. and tell the sgt what a great job the constable did, and how it was a pleasure to deal with him in what could have been a tense situation.

Thats a Great Idea. and would be productive at that. Im sure that the local RCMP would appreciate the kudo from a law abiding citizen.

But lets be honest here, were you wearing a Ghillie suit and yelling "Yeeehhhaa ... Dirka dirka " after every 5 rounds :)

Someone please organize a Black rile shoot and Get there EARLY to take all the spots on the bench to the far left that are frequented by hunters. Im thinking that this weekend is a good weekend to sight in the AR at the range.
 
don't take your black rifle to poco!

set up an ar shoot and with 10 or so on the firing line and do it when most of the old farts are there and that would piss them off.. i know what its like i have had some old farts piss me off pissing and moaning about my 590 shotgun and same with my ar at mission but that was ok because i got the last laugh i guess the old fart was looking to close at the scope when he shot and i had a good laugh a@shole:D
 
Ken The Kanuck said:
Nah, lots of Asians shoot there it was probably an " Asian ".

Do I sound like an a**hole? Same logic !

Who knows who the a**hole was. Maybe it was John, after all he is a older
" hunter ".

No...an "Asian" would have more class than that...unfortunately, this morning the range was knee-deep in stereo-typical red faced, red-necked, bearded, overweight bozos who provide all the ammunition that Cukier needs.
John certainly didn't call the RCMP; he was right there explaining what my rifle was before I even got back to my bench.;)

Ken The Kanuck said:
No, maybe before you punish us all by staying away or bring a horde of AR shooters to terrorise the rest of us, you might think that you simply ran into an " A " Grade a**hole, and sorry Billy there are those in the world.

Oh..I've been around long enough to know that some people are quite simply #######s, and there's not much anyone can do about it. :(

Ken The Kanuck said:
Forget the a**hole, come back and let me shoot your ' Machine Gun ' and I'll let you shoot my 'sniper rifle' or bust a few clays with the old 'scatter gun' if you prefer.
Ken.

Heh heh, thanks....any time...any time at all; it would be my pleasure. :)
 
Ken The Kanuck said:
Good to see the brotherhood displayed here.

Yep, time to eat our young.

Come and get us Wendy we are a bunch of mad dogs tearing at one another.

KTK

Are you reading the same thread that I am...? :confused:
I don't see any of what you say happening here. An idiot on the range called the cops on a member shooting a legal rifle in a legal manner. If it's the "hunter" reference that has irked your ire, I'm sorry about that...but the truth of the matter is, it most likely WAS one of the 15 or so "hunters" that were on the range this morning.
 
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Ken The Kanuck said:
Good to see the brotherhood displayed here.

Yep, time to eat our young.

Come and get us Wendy we are a bunch of mad dogs tearing at one another.

KTK

Ken, let's be realistic here. The 'field and stream' types have repeatedly shown their willingness to sell out handgunners and military rifle shooters for some time. How many hunters still vote Liberal? How many black gun owners? I rest my case ... :p

I don't think the point is to tar all hunters with that brush, but there is cause for some frustration with the group. 'Brotherhood' is a 2 way street, and the hunter types have managed to avoid sacrificing a whole lot of their guns over the years ... some of us haven't been so lucky. :(
 
Just thought I'd pipe in here. I think this is a case of one a$$hat who sold one of our own out. Poco has proven to be very Black Rifle and Service Conditions friendly, as much as their provincially imposed template allows (more on that later). I believe that leaving Poco to the flannel checkered set weakens us all, I say continue to go, Blackgun owners are not a minority at Poco and our membership/daycard money should have some pull.
 
ya,truly one s$$hat,but the others are right when they say its not the only time some know it all/know nothing pipes up at that range[not phone the police though]with some dumb ass comment about firing rates and mag capacities.within any group theres always some piece of dirt and the hunting group is no different,hey i've hunted deer and bear myself and own a scoped bolt action 30-06.

what i'm saying ,is i've run across a small number of truly ignorant dumasses at that range and a couple of them were your typical [go to the range once a year to zero the old girl in types]
 
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sparrow said:
I think this is a case of one a$$hat who sold one of our own out.

Yep, that's it in a nutshell, and what has made me so damned PO'd about what happened....If it had been a mountain biker or hiker or dog-walker that frequent the area calling the RCMP, I'd have laughed the whole thing off no problem....but a shooter on the firing line? :confused:

sparrow said:
Poco has proven to be very Black Rifle and Service Conditions friendly, as much as their provincially imposed template allows (more on that later). I believe that leaving Poco to the flannel checkered set weakens us all, I say continue to go, Blackgun owners are not a minority at Poco and our membership/daycard money should have some pull.

That's how I've always seen PoCo, as one of the more progressive clubs and ranges that accomodate the Black Rifle and Service Rifle groups. My reaction to the RCMP was a bit stifled as it completely took me by surprise. I often see cops and Sheriff Deptuties on Range 7 just having a look, so I didn't initially think the RCMP officer was serious when he started questioning me. Pretty damned upsetting all told . :mad:
 
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Let's see if I have screwed up here.

Some a**hole calls the cops on you for no good reason. Like I said too bad, we just have to face the fact that there are chickens**t a**holes in this world. If we could find out who the a**hole is then we could ask to have him banned from the club for causing so much dis-harmony.

Some how from a perfectly righteous rant we have split the shooting community up at PoCo into several distinct groups, " Old Farts " " Black Rifle Users " and " Fat Red Necks ". The " Black Rifle Users " want to go teach the " Old Farts " and " Fat Red Necks " a lesson.

Okay, maybe I was wrong as I am starting to feel the love being generated between brothers of the shooting fraternity on these pages.

To be honest with you if I hadn't read this thread (and I bet most PoCo members have not) and I went up to the club to sight in my hunting rifles and ran into a bunch of black rifle guys raising s**t and using up all the spots just piss me off, I would be.

Funny though when the black rifle guys get worried about a semi-auto ban, we are all reminded about how all gun owners are in the same boat and have to work together in harmony and brotherhood. Write letters to the Prime Minister and donate money to the CSSA in order to fight any ban on semi-autos.

Well I'm a fat ass old red neck hunter who believes that we are all together.

Some of you don't appear to feel the same.

KTK
 
Ken The Kanuck said:
Well I'm a fat ass old red neck hunter who believes that we are all together.

Some of you don't appear to feel the same.

I believe we all ought to be together on this ... history suggests we haven't been, and to be quite frank, certain groups have found it more tempting to break ranks than others. Add to this the natural inter- disciplinary rivalries that seem to exist and you intensify the split.

Ken, if the 'field and stream' fraternity is doubted it's not for the likes of folks like you and Foxer (for example) but because of the fact that there are yet many in that group who would gladly sell the rest of us out 'as long as we can still hunt'.

This is a problem that has been discussed before and this split has been a real opportunity for our enemies. However, and with all due respect, pretending the problem doesn't exist won't make it go away ...

And BTW I wouldn't advocate taking up shooting positions at Poco out of spite as this will undoubtedly backfire as you suggest.
 
I would attend a meeting if I were you and bring this up with the exec, and get it a formal motion approved that something go into the newsletter telling the membership that this kind of thing is not acceptable, and if repeated, and the member who did the calling is found out, he should be removed from the club.
 
to add to that, the blackpowder guys have their own range day up there, why don't you make a motion for a black gun only day up there too?
 
Slavex said:
I would attend a meeting if I were you and bring this up with the exec, and get it a formal motion approved that something go into the newsletter telling the membership that this kind of thing is not acceptable, and if repeated, and the member who did the calling is found out, he should be removed from the club.

I think that would send a pretty strong message about enforcing solidarity and paying a price for breaking ranks.
 
Slavex said:
I would attend a meeting if I were you and bring this up with the exec, and get it a formal motion approved that something go into the newsletter telling the membership that this kind of thing is not acceptable, and if repeated, and the member who did the calling is found out, he should be removed from the club.

This is a great idea Slavex, as well if your club publishes a newsletter talk to the editor and write a well thought out response to this incident.

Organizing a black rifle night or matches around hunting season may help open some eyes.;)
 
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