Don't you just love all the new acreages

The banks are too smart these days to have a bust happen.

If in their equations and estimations they see and decline in spending they will drop the interest rate again, if they see good times they will increase the rate or keep it steady.

They know how to make money and it is keeping people just on the brink and dependent on lenders to get what they WANT(not need).

People carrying 500K debt on average incomes, I know many , is it smart , nope, but then they have like others said, the big house, huge boat, two new cars and a pair of quads and sleds.To them it doesn't matter they are living the way they feel is right.

Would I like my little piece of heaven , absolutely , but I am a realist and know it won't happen, but that is the difference, I know it isn't gonna happen!



powdergun said:
I guess you are right but there is one small difference. My little slice won't have a big house on it or any house for that matter, it won't be subdivided into little 3-10 acre plots, and there won't be any bullbozers reshaping the land.

There is all kinds of land around that has little to no value as wildlife habitat that could be reclaimed for acreages but everyone wants a piece of nature. Just saying that it is shame good habitat gets destroyed when it doesn't have to. As for me it I can always find a place to hunt and sooner or later I'll have the time. And as I said earlier this boom of money will go bust sooner or later. Many of these acreages are folks extending themselves waaaaaayyyy to far financially.
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I know the feeling unless I have a crazy rich uncle that leaves me a forutune it won't happen for me either. In our area our only hope is that when the boom is over and the price of raw land tanks we can find our spot then. I'm scared at where it is going though. I was out around Okotoks and saw a 36 acres piece of raw very wet treeless pasture that just sold for $18,000 per acre. We are well below that here but if that is where we are going look out. Every farm will be hacked to pieces around P.A and area.
 
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Again I'll say a man has a right to do as he wishes with his own land but for those of us without the means to buy a big patch of land it f'ing sucks
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I feel for you because I/we hunters lost the absolute best square mile for hunting deer because it was right between feed, water & bedding sites: a deer highway. Owner I knew used it for cattle, his bulls mostly: big, powerful, lumbering brutes that were as kind as kittens. I would go hunting in there every year, sometimes stop to pet the bulls if they were in there during bow season.

He sold two years ago to another farmer and never told us and the new farmer clear cut & put four huge CAT dozers on it: this year it's as flat as a pancake iron. He plans to plant Soy for vegan foods: ultimate irony. I can still hunt there, but not so productive anymore, I think.

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Already started my friend.

powdergun said:
I know the feeling unless I have a crazy rich uncle that leaves me a forutune it won't happen for me either. In our area our only hope is that when the boom is over and the price of raw land tanks we can find our spot then. I'm scared at where it is going though. I was out around Okotoks and saw a 36 acres piece of raw very wet treeless pasture that just sold for $18,000 per acre. We are well below that here but if that is where we are going look out. Every farm will be hacked to pieces around P.A and area.
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powdergun said:
I know the feeling unless I have a crazy rich uncle that leaves me a forutune it won't happen for me either. In our area our only hope is that when the boom is over and the price of raw land tanks we can find our spot then. I'm scared at where it is going though. I was out around Okotoks and saw a 36 acres piece of raw very wet treeless pasture that just sold for $18,000 per acre. We are well below that here but if that is where we are going look out. Every farm will be hacked to pieces around P.A and area.
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Take heart... I hear you can find some crown land and park your truck across a cut line and slap up a treestand and you are the instant owner of your own personal acreage that nobody else can hunt on, shoot near or even drive by..... just sayin.... lol ....
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
The banks are too smart these days to have a bust happen.

If in their equations and estimations they see and decline in spending they will drop the interest rate again, if they see good times they will increase the rate or keep it steady.

They know how to make money and it is keeping people just on the brink and dependent on lenders to get what they WANT(not need).

People carrying 500K debt on average incomes, I know many , is it smart , nope, but then they have like others said, the big house, huge boat, two new cars and a pair of quads and sleds.To them it doesn't matter they are living the way they feel is right.

Would I like my little piece of heaven , absolutely , but I am a realist and know it won't happen, but that is the difference, I know it isn't gonna happen!
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Spending $500K on land is a good idea. Spending $500k on a boat, house, car, stock market, etc. is a bad idea, they make them every day and will continue to do so. Not so with land. Many investors have figured this out, hence the reason for high land prices.

For those who want their own land to hunt, guess what? You need to buy some. Or be content with finding public land or permission, it's actually pretty simple, and there's no point in whining and turning socialist.
 
I didn't like watching favorite close-by hunting grounds turn into acreages, but I don't resent the owners for buying it. I'm not jealous either, since their dream way of spending their money and living their lives is different than mine. The wildlife seems to thrive in these sub-divided sanctuaries, and the owners seem to be happy enough. Whether they choose to work their collective asses off for something I don't want is no business of mine.

The world is changing, and there isn't much a hunter can do other than adapt or get left behind. My reactions were to go farther afield looking for new areas, and set out to buy my own piece of paradise. I'm up to nearly 3 sections now, and have been farther afield than most so it appears to be working. Complaining didn't.

This game of life? Not everyone wins.
 
I have land in Northern Alberta, by Valleyview. I get LOTS of guys asking for permission to hunt it. I tell them OK, but you must WALK, absolutely no driving of any kind. Virtually none take me up on my offer. Even though it's posted lots of guys don't ask and just drive on it.
Also, thanks (I'm being sarcastic) to the prosperity of Ft. Mac., land all over Alberta is being bought for hunting camps. It immediately gets posted so the owners and their friends can hunt it, and they are also happy to hunt on neighboring land, but YOU can't hunt on THEIR land.
 
Dogleg said:
Hypothetically speaking, that's illegal in Saskatchewan and Alberta. Our laws don't make much sense when they are looked critically.
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You have got to be kidding ? Where did that law come from. For the record just to keep my butt out of the fire I'm doing it to help out a good friend and even if I did not hunt I'd still help out. There was no exchange of anything.
 
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powdergun said:
You have got to be kidding ? Where did that law come from. For the record just to keep my butt out of the fire I'm doing it to help out a good friend and even if I did not hunt I'd still help out. There was no exchange of anything.
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But then again............................

Dang, nothing to see here either.
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The same law that says that I (Or you, or any landowner) can't charge for hunting, means that (I, you, any hunter) can't pay for it either. Can't pay, can't trade, can't organize a hunt swap (or wife swap).

A law that doesn't allow the landowner to charge for hunting doesn't elevate everyone to the status of kings, nobility, the wealthy, the successful or the lucky . It does however reduce most to the status of beggers. They're in the something for nothing crowd if you're paying attention.

Hypothetically speaking.
 
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if you are in SK buy land now because it's only gonna get "worse" or "better" as the prosperity allows people tobuy what they want.
i grew up 40ish minutes outside of Calgary (now 10 minutes) it was all 1/4 section or larger at that time and shooting/hunting/carousing wasn't an issue
now it's all 3/4/5/10 acre parcels and you can't even pee off the tractor anymore without some one calling the police
 
That Saskatchewan land has been as cheap as its been, as long as its been is due to yet another stupid law known as the farmland security act. That aided some to build their little empires, then take it off and let the values climb.

Saskatchewan people are some of the friendliest, most caring, trusting and reasonable people around. That makes them especially easy to **** over.
 
Very true. There will be game on crown land for a very long time ( I hope ). As for the theoretical person doing a favour for another theoretical person and as a result a friendship is created is not about paying for hunting it is about simply being polite, appreciative, and a good neighbour.

Theoretical person has never run into a landowner that has ever asked for money, service, or otherwise in exchange for access. What happens over time is about simple good manners. The word exchange was incorrectly used perhaps " in order to show appreciation " would have been a better choice of words.

Grammar and syntax have never been my strengths. I interpreted the " something for nothing" phrase as some one seeking an entitlement ( access to private land etc.. ) without effort. If I was wrong apologies and I stand corrected and in no way am I saying access is an entitlement. So theoretical persons will just have to continue begging for access and then saying thank you.

In my younger days when my dad would travel to Alberta to hunt pheasant the would always leave some game or other gift with the land owner as a thank you. I was raised in this mindset that and if game was not offered other forms of thanks could take its place. Perhaps a bottle, labour, or something else as an expression of thanks and friendship . It saddens me greatly that this could be labeled as an illegal act.
 
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